RaGnaR_RattmuFF Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Hi. I've been looking at the "Watanabee rs8 Type R" Like the one Hoke have here on the forum. Could 9 inches fit with out needing zg fenders in the back and like 8 or 8,5 in the front? Have seen a picture and it's look awsome. Here it comes: How wide do you think this wheels is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennysgreen280zt Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=124666 check that thread. pictures and everything! page 6 i posted mine. 16x8 in the front, 16x18.5 in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaGnaR_RattmuFF Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHzm8XTENaE&feature=related this must be the Watanabe rs8 wheels. Or maby rota RB. But the polished lip looks more lika watanabe's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S30TRBO Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Austin and I have RS Watanabe R Type not RS-8. Here is what the RS-8 looks like: Before I had 9.5 in the rear but I sold them and bought two more 8.5. Here is with 16x8.5 -6 225/50/16 16x9.5 -19 245/45/16: Without flares you can run a 8.5 -6 offset. I have them all around now: Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaGnaR_RattmuFF Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Austin and I have RS Watanabe R Type not RS-8. Here is what the RS-8 looks like: Before I had 9.5 in the rear but I sold them and bought two more 8.5. Here is with 16x8.5 -6 225/50/16 16x9.5 -19 245/45/16: Without flares you can run a 8.5 -6 offset. I have them all around now: Hope this helps Looks great! Is the watanebe rs type-R available in 8" i might just want to use 215x40x16 How wide is the polished Wheel lip? about 8 cm? And the last question.. Is the Polished Lip on the 9,5" wheels as wide as on the 8,5"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 i posted mine. 16x8 in the front, 16x18.5 in the rear. Holy cats! that's a wide rim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennysgreen280zt Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Holy cats! that's a wide rim! HA! nice catch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaGnaR_RattmuFF Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 HAHAHA Good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S30TRBO Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Looks great! Is the watanebe rs type-R available in 8" i might just want to use 215x40x16. Thanks, there called "RS-Watanabe R Type" not "watanebe rs type R" it sounds like a Honda knock off. They do come in 8"s with 0 offset. Here is the Gallery and the Size Page. How wide is the polished Wheel lip? about 8 cm? It's not polished they call it a machine finish. I would say 4" on my 8.5". And the last question.. Is the Polished Lip on the 9,5" wheels as wide as on the 8,5"? Wider 8.5"9.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonycharger72 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Without flares you can run a 8.5 -6 offset. I have them all around now: Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm, interesting - In my personal experience, there is no way, absolutely none what-so-ever that you will squeeze an 8" wide rim under the front of the Z, well not stock suspension anyways...... You either end up with wheel outside the guard lip or run about a 25p offset and have your wheels slapping into the chassis before full lock, I have measured, measured and measured again and I have 115mm of backspacing and approximately 90mm of forward spacing before I hit the inner lip of the guard (100mm if you include the outter lip), its a little bit different on the other side of the car, but close enough to that - thats a max total of 215mm, good 10mm short of your average 8" rim - certainly gain more backspacing with smaller OD coilovers, For visual proof, this is what an 8" rim, 6p offset and 235/45-17 tyres looked like on my Z, good 10-15mm outside the outter lip of the guard, If you run smaller OD coilovers you can run a higher positive offset, around 25p and you should get the 8" rims stuffed underneath the car but you will struggle to get full steering lock as the wheels will wack into the chassis rails! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S30TRBO Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm, interesting - In my personal experience, there is no way, absolutely none what-so-ever that you will squeeze an 8" wide rim under the front of the Z, well not stock suspension anyways...... Hold the phone tonycharger72, RaGnaR_RattmuFF didn't say what suspension will 9" Watanabe's work on, only if they will fit without flares. He also didn't state what kind of Z he has. As everyone can tell I'm far from stock ride height so let me clarify a bit more. If RaGnaR_RattmuFF stated: I have an S30 will a 9" wheel with stock suspension fit without fender flares my post would have been something like this instead of my above comments: Unless you install coil-overs 9" Watanabe's or any other brand and offset of wheel will not fit. The back side of the wheel will hit the lower spring perch not to mention if you have the stock lower valance it will rub that and the top of the fender arch. IMHO 7.5" would be the max with a 0 offset without rubbing on a stock S30 suspension. Now if you have a Ground Control or similar coil over setup than an 9" will fit but will extend outside of the wheel well arch and in my experience a 8.5" will fit without flares. It's all about the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janaka Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 These are 16x8 0 offset on my 280z. I have no issues with them up front, the rears do rub a hair with 245/45's out back without the fenders rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaGnaR_RattmuFF Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Im so sorry! Its a datsun 240z 1973. Home made Coilovers with 205x50x16" wheels on it now. with 4 piston caliper in the front and stock in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonycharger72 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Sorry, my reply had a touch of frustration thrown in there, I was awfully unimpressed when I falked out $1600 on wheels and tyres and they didnt fit properly...........was not the funnest experience ! It's all about the details Yes it is 240tt, think with a bit of neg camber and about 10-15p offset you could get 8" under the guards and clear the chassis rails at lock - but that really is a guess, My personal experience is 8" really is to wide at the front of a zed unless you deal with the wheels just poking out of the guards or run a higher positive offset and deal with the wheels hitting the chassis rails, I didnt mention, that with the 8" rim and 235/45-17 tyres and then 215/45-17 tyres and 6p offset my wheels not only poked out of the guards, but at full-lock the bloody things rubbed on the chassis rails, I had to put a stop on the rack to get it over rego and scew in some rubber mud flaps onto the inner guard lip (like you see on FWD's) so my "guards" covered the outside of the wheel - gave the Z an interesting look ! I was told repeatedly that 8" rims would fit onto my Z at the front if I ran a close to 0 offset, but honestly don't see that that is correct, unless my Z is different from others................ Local wheel manufacturer in Australia called Simmons makes 3-piece wheels, they have told me they have supplied lots of wheels for Z's and told me I wont get more than a 7" rim under my Z, not unless I would like to deal with rims poking out past the guards or have my wheels rubbing on the chassis rails, These are 16x8 0 offset on my 280z. I have no issues with them up front, the rears do rub a hair with 245/45's out back without the fenders rolled. I ran my 8" rims for about 9-10mths on my car (I took of the mud-flaps when I was through rego) and with stock ride height I was able to drive around in the car, only when I went over a big bump did the rear tyres rub, Therefore, 8" rim does fit - but if by "fit" you mean the wheels are completely under the guard lip and clear the chassis rails, I really don't think they do! Think your better of with 7" front and 8" out back ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janaka Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 well my fronts have never rubbed, ever. I'm running 225/50 on them with no issues so I consider them to fit. Your experience may differ, the tolerances from one car to the next isn't exact so someone may have an issue. I'm just sharing my insight. I will be going to 225's out back and that shall stop the rubbing on big dips that I was seeing with the 245s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netrix Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Would running 205 R16's on a 16x8 wheel help prevent the rubbing issue? I'm thinking about doing that avoid the rubbing issue in the front and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonycharger72 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Would running 205 R16's on a 16x8 wheel help prevent the rubbing issue? I'm thinking about doing that avoid the rubbing issue in the front and back. Run the 205's on a 7" rim, may as well...........and run a 15p offset, you will have strut clearance, inner guard clearance and not f#ck with your track!!! well my fronts have never rubbed, ever. I'm running 225/50 on them with no issues so I consider them to fit. Your experience may differ, the tolerances from one car to the next isn't exact so someone may have an issue. I'm just sharing my insight. I will be going to 225's out back and that shall stop the rubbing on big dips that I was seeing with the 245s. You look like you are running at stock ride height, like I was when I ran 17x8" rims with 6p offset, wheels only rubed at close to full-lock on the fronts, but did poke past the guards, never rubbed on the guards - on the rears they only rubbed when I when over a big bump, honestly, yours look like they poke past the guards too, but you might not have much of an issue as there is quite a lot of clearance between the top of your wheels and the guard lip, just like mine were ! If you are running stock suspension and stock ride height you can slap on a set of 8" rims, but you WILL have the issue of the wheels poking out past the guards or run into clearance issues with the chassis rails, plus when I increased my track that much the car felt like sh#t!!! Seriously, it really is a struggle to stuff 8" rims under the front of a Z!!! And if I think you define "fit" by clearing the inner guard lips and chassis rails then an 8" rim don't fit under the front of a Z!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbigbutt Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I must have gotten lucky then to fit my 17x8.5 +4 offset wheels to fit!! I have had no issues in the front. No rubbing issues and fit under the guards perfect. I am running 225x45x17. Now the back is a different story. I rub with over big bumps. I still need to roll the fender lip which should help my problem. Here is a recent pic with lowered suspension and a new front lip installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonycharger72 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I must have gotten lucky then to fit my 17x8.5 +4 offset wheels to fit!! I have had no issues in the front. No rubbing issues and fit under the guards perfect. I am running 225x45x17. Not lucky, more of a miracle !!! Thats 241.3mm (approx) of wheel stuffed under the front of your Z!!! With 116.5mm of Forward Spacing & 124.5mm of Back-Spacing, you should have clearance issues with your struts and wheels should be poking out past your guards, I remember I ran a 17x7 with 20p offset on my stock suspension Z and could just squeeze a piece of paper between the wheel and the strut tower on the fronts - that was with 120mm of backspacing, stuffed if I know how you squeeze 124mm of backspacing under a Z without interference on the strut towers or not have the wheels slap into the chassis rails near lock!!! Maybe I got the raw end of the stick with my Z !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regulatori Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I run 15x8 -14 in the read and 15x7.5 -7 in the front and it's literally a perfect match...the rims lips are pretty much flush with the fender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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