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i have a s30 with a built 383 sbc all motor with th350 tranny (torque converter 2600) with r180 rear diff, here the thing it bothering me....why gear ratio it too short...th350 come with 3 speed...i shift every gear at 9000rpm on my autometer tach...YES 9000RPM...by end of 3rd gear im at 120mph on the datsun oem speed gauage..but it not the end of a 1/4 mile yet....

my goal is hitting 10sec on a 1/4 mile with nitrous

 

 

HELP ME.....WHAT IS THE SOLUTION....

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It would sure help to know your tire diam. and rear gear ratio,and the rpms your running thru the lights and launching at the line at. and any 383 that sees a true 9000rpm is doomed to a short life expectancy, I'm sure, most guys reading that 9000rpm assume your either b.s,ing or your tachs defective, as theres no way an auto trans without full manual control shifts at 9000rpm without being damaged, and even then its on borrowed time

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http://www.wallaceracing.com/calcmph.php

 

Even with my lowly 383 7000 rpm, my 3.7 rear and 225 50 16s are nipping at 140 mph when I'm in 4th 1:1

Hmmm. maybe your trannies stuck in 2nd gear or perhaps the tach is set for six cylinders.

 

Using my tire size, 3.5 rear, and 9000 rpm in 2nd gear ratio from a T 350 of 1.52:1, that computes to 123 mph!!

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your current set up results

 

and if your tachs reading 9000rpm its probably set to read a six cylinder engine, and your really running at about 6600rpm

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Final Gear Ratio : 3.73

Tire Size : 225-50-14

Max Power RPM : 6000

Limit RPM : 6500

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Gear Ratio Compound

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1 2.520 9.400

2 1.520 5.670

3 1.000 3.730

 

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Gear MPH/1000 MPH @6000 MPH @6500

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1 7.24 43 47

2 12.00 72 78

3 18.24 109 119

 

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MPH RPM (in Gears)

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1 2 3

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5 691 417 274

10 1382 833 548

15 2072 1250 822

20 2763 1667 1096

25 3454 2083 1371

30 4145 2500 1645

35 4835 2917 1919

40 5526 3333 2193

45 6217 3750 2467

50 4167 2741

55 4583 3015

60 5000 3289

65 5417 3564

70 5833 3838

75 6250 4112

80 4386

85 4660

90 4934

95 5208

100 5482

105 5757

110 6031

115 6305

120 6579

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Gear Change RPM drop (change @6000) RPM drop (change @6500)

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1->2 -2381 (To 3619) -2579 (To 3921)

2->3 -2053 (To 3947) -2224 (To 4276)

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in an ideal world you swap to a WELL BUILT 700R4 with full manual controls, and get results that change to those below

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Final Gear Ratio : 3.73

Tire Size : 225-50-14

Max Power RPM : 6000

Limit RPM : 6500

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Gear Ratio Compound

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1 3.060 11.414

2 1.630 6.080

3 1.000 3.730

4 0.700 2.611

 

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Gear MPH/1000 MPH @6000 MPH @6500

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1 5.96 36 39

2 11.19 67 73

3 18.24 109 119

4 26.06 156 169

 

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MPH RPM (in Gears)

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1 2 3 4

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5 839 447 274 192

10 1678 894 548 384

15 2516 1340 822 576

20 3355 1787 1096 768

25 4194 2234 1371 959

30 5033 2681 1645 1151

35 5872 3128 1919 1343

40 3575 2193 1535

45 4021 2467 1727

50 4468 2741 1919

55 4915 3015 2111

60 5362 3289 2303

65 5809 3564 2494

70 6255 3838 2686

75 4112 2878

80 4386 3070

85 4660 3262

90 4934 3454

95 5208 3646

100 5482 3838

105 5757 4030

110 6031 4221

115 6305 4413

120 6579 4605

125 4797

130 4989

135 5181

140 5373

145 5565

150 5757

155 5948

160 6140

165 6332

170 6524

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Gear Change RPM drop (change @6000) RPM drop (change @6500)

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1->2 -2804 (To 3196) -3038 (To 3462)

2->3 -2319 (To 3681) -2512 (To 3988)

3->4 -1800 (To 4200) -1950 (To 4550)

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read thru these and the sub links

 

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=2042&p=5443&hilit=+tire#p5443

 

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=555

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Grumpyvette, has stats but he has 225/60/14 not 225/50/14.

BTW datsun71 did you change the speedometer gear for the 3.7 rear rear? In other words are you sure your speedometer accurate?

Looks like you might need some taller tires, like 26" slicks.

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I would think that taller tires would be the best (cheapest) way to solve the problem. The other thing would be to swap the 3.7 R180 for a 3.54 R200 (along with the other assorted bits in the rear for the conversion). In my mind, these are the cheapest 'fixes'. Next would be the transmission. How does an R180 live behind a 383 in drag racing anyway?

 

 

Davy

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thank

everyone

 

okay what size of tire and rim is best fit at the rear wheel housing with no modification for drag racing....i think it is my tire is too small...every time i took off i think my tire not grabbing...and my rpm flying so fast that i just have to shift it....is it okay i run on suspension...r180 will upgrade to r200 soon...

 

my goal to run in the 10 in 1/4 mile

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That 10" rim will probably put the tires into the fenders. I have some Weld Wheel 9" with 4.5" backspace and 235x15 drag radial that won't fit under my stock fenders. You would probably need some flares.

 

thank

 

26/15x8 will it get me into the 10sec 1/4 mile easy...i was thinking 26/10/15 with spacer...

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