v8dats Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 i was wondering what kind of welding you guys are using with your framerails and flooboards. any bad experinces with any?what does the framerail attach to at the rear of the car?do i make flooboards first if too rusty to weld?i saw pete's page but i cant see where it ties at the rear of the frame rail. pete? mike? anyone. thankz!! pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 V8Dats, I used a gasless wire feed welder. I used 16 gauge sheetmetal for the floorboards. Click on the homepage icon to see my pics. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8dats Posted December 3, 2001 Author Share Posted December 3, 2001 how did you tie in the framerail to the rear subframe?did you do the rails or the floorboars first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 You need to look at Petes site he has some real neat subframe connectors... Several others have done them a little different....do a search for floorboards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 I cut out the old floorboards and the old rails (which end just behind the driver's seat). Then I welded in the floors. Then the new frame rails were welded to the floors,rear subframe and front subframe. ALOT of welding. Hope that answers your question. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 MIG welding is perferred. Gasless is messy and not nearly as good of a weld. The extra gas option is about $100 and is worth it. Obviously TIG is the best, but we use MIG in the industry most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Locutus Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 Actually to add gas it is closer to and extra 200 bucks. You have to by the regulator and then buy a tank too(unless you happen to have one laying around). My bottle was $122 full, I got liquid CO2 but I think I am going to switch to a CO2/Argon mix. It was more expensive so thats why I went with all C02. There are smaller ones you can get but you don't want to run out when you are in your groove. I was told by a friend that he had to stop twice in one day to get the smaller bottle filled. I have welded two spirited days on my car, as well as numerous other projects, and my bottle is still half full. Food for thought. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 My Lincoln SP125 mig, including everything except the tank was on sale delivered to my door for $540. It is a gas and I use 75/25 argon - C02 MIX wih all my welding. Very easy to use and I weld all my control arms with it, as well as my cage and my floorpans. Mike Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8dats Posted December 8, 2001 Author Share Posted December 8, 2001 yeah i was hoping that the mig was the way to go cause i'm not not very good with the arc.my father has a mig welding with the argon mixture and it works great on all kinds of metals.so its ok to weld the rails with the mig right?thank you all for replying. juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted December 9, 2001 Share Posted December 9, 2001 Sorry, been away from here for a week or so. I use MIG as well, 110V Daytona MiniMig (not great, but it works), .023" wire, 75/25 Argon/CO2. The subframe connectors are notched on the end (see the drawing). This end is slid onto the unibody bracing that the diff fron crossmember bolts to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted December 9, 2001 Share Posted December 9, 2001 I supported my car with jack stands and long 4x4's across the lenght of the car. I cut one side out and made the floor and rails for both. side was tack welded in and than the other. Off the car went to the frame shop and we pulled the car a smidge past dead on and welded the car before removing it from the frame machine. The reason for this is to preload the floor and frame slightly for stiffness and to resist "bounce back" when the tension was released from the machine. I have some photo's in my link at the bottom. The car is incredibly tight and steers even better. This is just the way I did mine and you will have to figure out what is best for you. I knew the guys at the frame shop so I came in on a sunday and bribed them with, of all things, BEER!!! What a surprise EH? LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 15, 2001 Share Posted December 15, 2001 gas option from the welder supplier is about $100 as I stated. In my aera we can get a cylinder for $50 deposit and then just pay for the gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8dats Posted December 16, 2001 Author Share Posted December 16, 2001 are there any spots on the car that i shouldn't support it?i dont want this sucker totry to twist while i'm cutting it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 400 ci 280z Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 i would like to know the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dp351zcar Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 I'd like to know also as I am at that stage now. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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