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1970 240z Project (Very slow, money is tight)

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If you do go that route, I hope you keep the numbers matching L24 on the side.

Oh hell yeah I'd keep it. Thing is that the block is a e31, but the head is an e88, it should be an e31 for my car, so I'll have to find one and rebuild it. I'm keeping everything I can that is salvageable, just have to find a place to store it all.

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Well today was finally a warm sunny day, its been too cold to work on the car in the garage, I know that some of you out there are in colder parts of the US, but it has been a lot colder here this year then previously. Well I decided to take advantage and start stripping the paint from the loose panels on the car. I got 3 pieces completely done, the rest are just waiting. Now that Im finished with my vin verification I have more options available to me. The whole mess with the vin verification was when the previous owner took the car to get it verified since the car was from new mexico, anyways when he took the car in, the dmv looked under the hood and saw a emissions sticker for the L28 from where the hood came from. What I've put together, since the car was in an accident, one of the previous owners switched out the hood probably from a 280z.

 

I also took a short video tonight, here's the link. If anyone has ideas let me know. Im planning on trying to make some carbon fiber pieces for the car(Hood, blinker, and maybe once I get good at it the fenders) who knows maybe i'll start selling the pieces if anyone wants some maybe I'll be able to do that for you guys. I'll make a thread about it when I start doing it, next week I hope to order all the stuff to start making some fiber glass moldings of some small stuff I have laying around. Pictures will be uploaded tomorrow, here's the video from today.

 

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Man that accident damage sucks! Is the frame still straight? From what I remember, it should be pretty easy to get at all the spot welds for that piece, so I'd drill out all the spot welds, and get that same piece off a car that's been rear ended/parted out, and weld it back like factory.

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Man that accident damage sucks! Is the frame still straight? From what I remember, it should be pretty easy to get at all the spot welds for that piece, so I'd drill out all the spot welds, and get that same piece off a car that's been rear ended/parted out, and weld it back like factory.

 

 

Thats what I was thinking, Ill have to find that part, from when I can tell everything else is straight, so Im not worried about that. I didn't know if I wanted to do it myself or have someone do it for me since I don't have the tools for it and neer have welded before, but I was thinking I should learn at some point lol. Don't want to mess up my car though lol

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Alas reality kicked in last night for me. I really wanted to do an Rb swap, and I expected to have my car night drive for the longest time, but as they say here on Hybridz, make sure you know how much the cost is before you do it. Good thing I didn't even try and purchase anything yet. I counted up about 10k in parts, not including the body work im doing myself. So Im going back to my original plan of getting the stock motor to run right, getting some nice carbs and so forth. I basically have everything to get my car to work so thats the route im going till as we all say "win the lottery". Getting hyped up is no fun either lol, I've managed to find another F54 block with crank, flywheel, oil pan and water cover for 100 bucks. Sounds good to me! Needs to be rebuilt, but I might be able to spend a little bit of money to get it to put out some decent power since I don't have any power goals as of yet. Thanks Hybrid Z for having the best info! :)

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Well today I took advantage of a nice day today, took out the windows, the wiring harness, pedals, and windshield. Also off the left overs in the engine bay, everything is almost taken off so i can start stripping the paint off of the car.

 

Today I also went and picked up another short block an L28 F54 block with the full rotating assembly, pulley, timing chain, and gear, water pump, and even though it had a turbo oil pan, i was given a n/a oil pan with it. All of it for 100 bucks, pretty good deal I think! I had purchased an f54 block for 40 bucks awhile back and I picked it up at a machine shop that a friend had stored their. The block was cleaned 3 years ago, and was stored outside. The block is rusty everywhere, and I was told it would be a good working block, as long as I put some work into it. I didn't really trust it, so I was looking for another block this whole time. Now that I have that and my N42 head I picked up from Gollum on here, im going to have an awesome motor at some point. Im going to get the motor back up to stock form to just run the car when she's done, but after that I can do my 3.0L stroker set up a few years down the line. I might be able to do a cam and valves plus springs since Thats what i can afford piece by piece. Anyways here's some pics I took of the car tonight and of the Yellow rusty 40 dollar F54 block, and the, 100 dollar entire short block.

 

More things to come!!!

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Anyone have any suggestions for a build that ca save me some money but be fun till I "win the lottery" lol I heard I can do L24 rods to make higher compression, but I think I have to get flat top pistons for this block correct; since Im not going turbo. I know I probably will spend that little extra on getting my triple carbs though, I need new carbs anyways, might as well get what I want to use. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)

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Engine bay is almost stripped down, Started the fuel and brake line removal last night, it got too dark and I couldn't fit myself full in the transmission tunnel to real the rest of the screws. So most of the lines are loose. Everything is coming together and fast for stripping the paint and fixing a little body work before priming.

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Well I had some free time tonight to play in the garage, so I ended up taking off the E88 head, after I took the head off I looked at the valves, I don't know what to look for anyways but I can see the exhaust valves have this rust color to them. I don't know if thats normal, and I don't know what else to look for, I need to go through my books to see. I had a newer fel pro metal head gasket. I don't know if this is due to the car running rich, or if this is standard carbon deposit from normal wear and tear. Im thinking of just doing some head work and leaving the pistons as they are, what do you guys think? I'll be picking up two extra heads this weekend, a P79 complete and a Maxima n47 for a grand total of 35 dollars! going to try and get some of the paint off this weekend on the body, this is going to be the long part!

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Update:

 

I found an amazing deal this weekend, I got a P79 head complete and a almost complete Maxima N47 head for a grand total of 35 bucks! Awesome older gentleman I met in emeryville since he lives in SF and Im very east bay in lIvermore. I did get a chance to clean the carbon deposits off the top of my pistons and boy was their a lot! Everything looks good except for the one small dent left by a valve. Im wondering if thats what happened to the E31 head thats supposed to go to this block, it was covered with the carbon, so I don't think it was from me since I only had driven the car for about 10 miles tops before taking it apart. On a side note, I started paint stripping the car, I have aircraft stripper, but I ad the use the other paint stripper I bought first to make sure it didn't go to waste. :)

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Found a performance shop in my home town, I'll be heading over their tomorrow morning to get some info on some head work. I'll be bringing my N42 head and my P79 head. I'll be going with the head that will cost the least to work on. I only want some mild work done on it since I'll be putting it on my L24. If this shop does a good job, I'll be putting the money into the stroker motor later once the car is done.

 

I;ll be posting some pics tomorrow on the status of my ride, did a trade with a local Hybrid Z member. I traded my older 5speed for a firewall and driver side frame to fix the crashed portion. I just have to make the cuts and pick up a welder to weld the parts on and that will be one huge headache taken care of.

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Took my N42 head over to Terry Tinney motor sports here in livermore. This shop mainly does Alfa romeo and Bmw Racing builds, Im having them check my N42 head that I got. They are pressure testing the head to make sure there's no cracks. Terry also checked my valves and they are going to need work since they were leaking air when he put some air pressure through each valve. Heres a video update that I made today while I waited for the paint stripper to do its job.

 

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Well It's been awhile since I've posted, still working on the Z ofcourse. I've been sanding the body and using aircraft stripper to get the first layer of paint and clear coat+body filler off. Then I've been sanding with my air compressor sander 80 grit, 120 grit, and 240 grit. The back driver side is basically all sanded down to metal, I didn't want to use a wire wheel because it makes really deep scratches in the metal.post-15914-085509500 1331268168_thumb.jpg

 

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I did also get most of the hood finished, if I can make some room in my garage I will also tackle trying to make the Carbon Fiber hood I've been planning on making.

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Since I was able to leave early from work today I tackled removing the hatch sill plate since I know it was covered in body filler/silicon and paint. Instead of just cutting it off like most people. Instead I drilled out the spot welds and pride it off. It did take awhile but Im happy with the result, I do however have to cut off some small pieces, but I will be ordering my new hatch sill from Z car source. post-15914-092427100 1331268991_thumb.jpg

 

It's about 134 bucks, but I know that It will fit and I don't have to do really any modifications. Heres what the hatch plate looks like after I pulled it off.

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To keep myself busy I bought a valve compressor to take apart my heads, really wanted one so I can get the work done on the head and valves and put them back on myself, I bought this on amazon for about 42 bucks, I added some duct tape and bubble wrap on the valve end so it won't scratch the valves :).

 

I've been in a search for an E31 head and have found a few people willing to sell for a good price. I was trying to find a head that was in running condition to just bolt on and run but the one I found which is a member on here was supposed to send me a vid and never got back to me. I was ready with cash in hand, I hope he reads this and send me my vid :) If not I'll be purchasing from another member. I also have been playing around with the idea of making a high compression L28 on the side with a MN47 head since I found a gas station near by that sells 94 and 100 octane. Might make for a fun ride :) I'll make a video tomorrow when Im not so tired.

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It is...I need updates. I really wanna see how that hatch sill installation goes. I've had mine sitting around for over a year and need some motivation. :)

 

 

I'll be ordering my new hatch sill this week or next. Im picking up the welder this weekend hopefully, I'll try and show how im going to tack it on and weld it, Im really due for an update, I'll get that up this week too...If I can remember lol. I have most of the car down to metal now and im stripping the doors and fenders. I found an E31 head and its at the machine shop right now getting cleaned, blasted, and Im pretty sure i'll be switching the valve seats to steal instead of the old bronze ones. Most of the valves were sealing just fine, but with two broken studs and the valves caked on with carbon deposit they will be cleaned too. After thinking long and hard I'll be running this head stock with my E31 block and adding triple mikunis and my MSA 6-1 Exhaust, an electric fan, new radiator. I feel that power will keep me happy for awhile till I either build my High compressing MN47/F54 flat top motor. I'll be doing a more performance cam, springs. But that will be one day for my combo.

 

 

Im really trying to convince my wife to help me with the interior, what Im looking for is a suede/alcantara type of interior like todays super cars. Im not going to add too much Dynamatt sound deadner as that stuff is really heavy, but I will be adding some to the fire wall, center transmission tunnel. But I don't know how much it weighs so I may add more in the end but well see. Video to come this week guys I promise!

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Great thread and great work, have you considered maybe in addition to this thread maybe split up to sub sections and do a more thorough "walk through" of body work, mechanical work, suspension, electronics, carbon fiber (how about making an extra to sell? ;) ), etc...

The amount of work you are doing deserves multiple threads.

 

i would also be very interested in seeing some suede/alcantara interior, i personally hated the stock vinyl interior look, look and feels too cheap.

 

I'm also curious how much experience do you have doing something like this? Im not questioning your abilities, just impressed by the amount of work being done.

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Great thread and great work, have you considered maybe in addition to this thread maybe split up to sub sections and do a more thorough "walk through" of body work, mechanical work, suspension, electronics, carbon fiber (how about making an extra to sell? ;) ), etc...

The amount of work you are doing deserves multiple threads.

 

i would also be very interested in seeing some suede/alcantara interior, i personally hated the stock vinyl interior look, look and feels too cheap.

 

I'm also curious how much experience do you have doing something like this? Im not questioning your abilities, just impressed by the amount of work being done.

 

I never really thought of it actually, I think I might do that. I made a video update of the build its taking its sweet time to load on youtube right now, so I'll pot it up as soon as I can. It was getting late so I'll make a how to n what im doing and also take pictures and such tomorrow. I saved all my interior so I can hopefully get my wife to get some sewing down with my ideal interior.

 

I have 0 experience!!! I've never really worked on a car except my daily when it breaks down like today lol. I watched a lot of rebuild shows, I look up stuff online, and a friend tells me whats next. We'll see how she turns out, Im not looking for show quality, but I want it done right the first time so I never have to worry again. Besides if she does become show quality I won't mind :)

 

I have taken a brake on the carbon fiber making since I really need to concentrate on finishing up the body work and paint since thats the worst thing in the entire world lol, but I will make a thread and once I have it set I'll try to offer it and see whos interested. I woun't mind making a little extra on the side and maybe I can offer it cheaper then what I've been seeing it online, and I know that a lot of people with RB build would love to save a little extra weight ;)

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Ii have the passenger door just about done. Just need to finish the top portion then I can get onto the driver side door. I made a video today on how I'm stripping the paint off the entire car, same method all around, I'll take some pics and also create a how too thread a little later, hopefully this weekend. Went and checked on my he's at the shop and it's still waiting to be blasted with the valves. I meant to go get some c02 Ar mix today since I got out of work early, but I wanted to start sanding the paint and attack the rust spots today, which I got a fair amount done, not as much as I wanted since I didnt have any charged batteries for my drill to use a 3m pad. Oh well I have three days off this weekend, maybe I can finish another door and get onto the rust in the cabin.

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Nice thread Alex. Thanks for taking a look at my build; we have quite a bit in common with limited funds/high expectations.

 

Also, do you know what kind of wheels you have? I have very similar ones and I'm trying to figure out what they are exactly.

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nice project...I am just a little ahead of you on my 71. All my body work is now done and I am now wet sanding with 600. I replaced the roof and leaded in the joint just like the factory did, repaired rust on floor pans, cut out all rust and also did the rear hatch decking, hit me up if you have any questions..

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Nice thread Alex. Thanks for taking a look at my build; we have quite a bit in common with limited funds/high expectations.

 

Also, do you know what kind of wheels you have? I have very similar ones and I'm trying to figure out what they are exactly.

 

I have the enkie 96's that came with the car, I'll be getting rid of those since they aren't my style. You have the enkie 92's I believe.

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