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TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Updates! I found that I was still using the opto-isolator tach input/output circuit with EDIS, as originally suggested by B&G. MSExtra now recommends using the VR circuit, so I swapped to that. I haven't noticed a huge difference, but the placebo effect has me thinking it's running a bit smoother. I'm still having trouble fully eliminating my light ping above 10psi, even with timing pulled back to 15* and running 11.9 afr. I'm worried about EGTs (which I'm not monitoring) if I pull any more timing. I'm starting to wish I'd spent the time on some headwork before reassembling the longblock. Maybe I'll look into installing my methanol kit until I'm ready to take the plunge into E85, but I hate to have to do that temporarily. I just don't know what else I can troubleshoot. I do have a pretty constant miss at idle that I haven't been able to track down, but I can't see how that would have anything to do with my ping. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Right now it's just sitting in there, since I removed the forward console mounting bracket for weight reduction lol. Eventually I plan to put that back in and solid mount the cage to it. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Here's the Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP3D46NH There are various options in 1-din, but all from China. I think I still had to trim my console a bit to fit a 1-din cage. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Looks like I missed some updates! In September I showed my car in a local event, TougeCon. They had a nighttime parking garage meet that I installed underglow for, and a daytime "car show" at the town square. Was the first time really getting the car out, and it garnered a lot of attention! I still haven't dug into diagnose whether I still have the noise issues (probably, I still see some spikes on CLT and AFR), but as mentioned in this thread I did finally resolve my jumpy tach. Turns out using a 12V zener was allowing noise through, and using the proper 18V zener cleaned up up. It's nice to finally have a solid tach. I picked up a cheap Chinese touchscreen head unit that runs android, so I could load ShadowDash and connect Bluetooth to Megasquirt for logging and some extra gauges. It's pretty slick! I have it auto-uploading logs to Google Drive when I hit Wi-Fi, and can download and burn tunes. In the last couple weeks I noticed a distinct whine after the engine got up to temp. It sounded like it was coming from the block area on the passenger side. Eventually I realized that back when I did the L28ET swap in 2009, I blocked off the inlet/outlet on the factory oil cooler since I didn't have a filter stud handy. It must have been bypassing oil the entire time I've run this engine. 🤦♂️ For now I got a stud from Nissan, and have an oil cooler coming from GRW. After the tail light swap, I realized the late-style license plate light wouldn't fit the early panels. I took inspiration from Skillard, and fabbed up a simple blanking plate using LEDs. I also pulled the trigger on a fuel system refurb. I'll be retrofitting an Aeromotive Stealth 340 into my factory tank, using a Radium stainless 10 micron filter, and upgrading to PTFE lines to eventually run E85. No more fuel slosh and starvation! In the meantime, now that the engine is broken in I've been working on dialing in my tune under boost. I set up some knock ears using a knock sensor, portable audio amplifier, and some headphones, and it seems to work pretty well! Once I hit around 10psi in any gear, I can clearly hear some ping. I'm holding steady at < 12:1 afr, and have backed my timing out to 19*, but still haven't gotten it to go away completely. I'm going to drastically pull timing and richen things up to work from the other direction, but that's already less timing than I'd expect necessary. -
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EDIS Tach Signal - Combine Negative Coil Signals
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in MegaSquirt
Just wanted to update this thread to say that the 12V zener is not a good idea, as was suggested here: https://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=39695 Over time I started having a jumpy tach under load, and I think it was somehow also contributing to some ECU noise. Switching to the correct 18V zener cleaned up both issues. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Found a few more issues: The EDIS module had an intermittent ground on pin 9, and working backward I found a cruddy solder joint where I was experimenting with a diode. My PIP/SAW shield was grounded at MS and combined with the VR shield at EDIS pin 7, creating a ground loop. My PIP/SAW shield was combined to another ground where I connected the MS harness to the EDIS harness, ground loop #4. With all of that cleaned up I still had RPM spikes. I enabled Noise Filtering and that seems to have fixed it, but I'm not really happy with masking a noise issue. I'll try to scope the VR and PIP signals at some point, and see about adding a condenser to the coil + just in case. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
After much deliberation, I decided to go with FutoFab's HD wheel stubs, 930 CV axles, and diff stubs. It took me a few days during the week to install the wheel stubs and bearings, and I finished up the axle install today. It's nice to have a fully refreshed and strong rear end, though I'll need to dig back into my diff at some point. I'm getting some noise at speed and on decel, and despite the CVs being smoother I still have a slight on/off clunk. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Dove in deeper than I thought I'd need to while addressing the RPM spikes: Replaced my EDIS crank sensor, which was chewed into at the tip after contacting the old trigger wheel. Modified the mount to close the gap between the crank sensor and new trigger wheel. Discovered that I combined my ECU ground, ECU pin 7 sensor ground ref, sensor ground wires, and LC-1 grounds all to a chassis ground at the firewall with a ground strap to the battery. This goes against prevailing wisdom to keep sensor grounds separate and direct to ECU pin 7, and to keep the noisy LC-1 heater ground far away from the ECU ground. Realized the ECU box is mounted to metal (chassis ground). Potential ground loop, so likely not ideal. Unfortunately, despite significantly reduced noise in my logs and no more resets, I'm still getting RPM spikes under load/boost. I'll have to dig deeper. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Got my RCAs and inner/outer tie rods installed, though unfortunately T3 neglected to include the bumpsteer spacers so I'll have to circle back and dial that in once those arrive. Drilling out the steering knuckles was HORRIBLE. Due to the metal hardness it took me 30+ min of drilling per side, a broken $20 drill bit, and a considerable amount of strength/pressure. If anyone else installs these I highly recommend pulling them off the car and using a drill press rather than drilling by hand. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Went on a 100mi twisty cruise last weekend, and discovered some new items to address. Tires are rubbing the front flares in turns Someone (me?) re-drilled a rear nutsert after breaking a bolt off in it, which has now failed One air dam bolt disappeared Getting some RPM spikes above 3k rpm Logging is dropping out, not sure if it's a loose serial cable or actual resets Bumpsteer is terrible I've re-drilled the front flares to give more clearance, drilled out and replaced the failed nutsert, replaced the air dam bolt, reconfigured my reset bluetooth adapter to get wireless logging back, and bought RCAs and T3 bumpsteer adjustable tie rod ends. I also swapped out my faulty ignition switch that was giving me trouble for the initial start. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
At long last I can post a few reveal pics, now that the "look" is complete! Though, I do still need to drill the body to properly mount the front and back bumpers. The paint is TH1 Midnight Blue Pearl from the R32, ceramic tint for heat rejection since I'm AC-less, and partial PPF on the buckets, hood, and behind the tires. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
So far so good! I have 80 miles on the rebuild, and nothing too concerning yet other than a bit of valvetrain noise I'm hoping is resolved by a hot adjustment when I hit 100 miles. Currently the car is at the tint/PPF shop, so I'll get some "complete" pictures in the next week or two after I pick it up. It's been fun getting back into MS tuning after so long, and I'm finding a LOT of areas I needed to improve. So far I've: Upgraded from MS2/E 3.3.2 to 3.4.4. Swapped from don't include to include AFR (used a spreadsheet to convert VE). Swapped from the old to new baro mode (had to retune most of my VE). Dialed back and smoothed my timing, primarily in the idle and cruise areas. Increased my tps, rpm, and CLT/MAT lag factors. I must have had the scale backward in my head originally, as they were in the 90's and barely filtering. Leaned out my idle and cruise areas significantly. Started dialing in my MAT correction, based on Gollum's findings. With all of these changes the car is running better than ever. I've always had issues with low rpm and cruise throttle transition jerkiness, no matter what I did with AE. I suspect I was way to aggressive with my timing, and had some drastic transitions causing the behavior. -
TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Turns out this took a few months instead of a few weeks, but the engine is back in and I did the first run this past weekend! Between then and now I got the crank sensor mount modified for the new balancer, timing indicator made and marked, mounted and routed my new catch-can, flow tested my ancient 7M injectors, and verified the timing (good thing, I was 5* retarded!). It didn't immediately grenade on the first run which is a relief, but it didn't exactly go smoothly either. I pinched a brand new injector o-ring, so I'll have to go back and swap the temporary cheap rubber one I put in there. I'd forgotten that my ignition cuts the switched +12 power (powering down the ECU) if I turn it too far into the start position, so we ended up bridging the starter temporarily until I chased that down with a multimeter a few days later. Seems like I'll have to replace the electrical portion of my key switch. The EDIS firing order and orientation always throws me off so I ended up with Coil A and C wires swapped. I have them labeled now so that doesn't keep biting me. I'm hoping all the cranking and misfiring cylinders didn't adversely affect my rings seating, but we'll see after the break-in cruise this weekend. For the last week I've been working on finishing up QOL stuff like gluing in weatherstripping, finishing the 240z tail light conversion, replacing my crappy ebay steering wheel with a proper Sparco, adding a turbo blanket and downpipe wrap, and various other little cosmetic items. Full reveal soon! -
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TR's 260z L28 Build Thread
TrumpetRhapsody replied to TrumpetRhapsody's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Bringing this back from the dead! After my dyno session where you could see significant blow-by coming from the valve cover, the car progressively started producing blue smoke from the exhaust. I don't recall the exact timeline now, but around mid-2016 Flatblack helped me pull and disassemble the engine. We discovered two pistons with broken skirts, and one piston with broken ringlands. My head gasket was also hanging on by a thread, with very elongated bores. Since then other life priorities took precedence, and the car was basically untouched for 7 years. Mid 2023 I finally took the car in for paint, and got it back in October. Meanwhile I had the block cleaned up, found some used pistons, performed the coolant bypass mod on my P90 head, did the 240z tail light conversation, and last month finished reassembling the longblock. Sometime between 2013 and 2016 Flatblack sold his 280z, so we traded flywheel and clutch setups so I'd have more torque headroom. At some point his flywheel dowels went missing, so I'm waiting on replacements to get the engine stabbed back in and broken in over the next few weeks. Once I have everything complete, I'll post some reveal pictures of the new look! Short term I need to get a rollbar, some performance seats, and harnesses put in the car. I'll also need to get my MS2/Extra upgraded to the latest version, and apparently be a little more conservative with my tune. From there, I'll likely pursue installing the Snow Performance meth kit I've been sitting on for a decade, follow-through with the 280zx CV swap with the weld on adapters, upgrade injectors and swap to running E85, and look at swapping to a properly sized modern turbo to support my original 400whp goal. -
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I'm waiting on a Mustang caliper option or something. Not all of us have Wilwood-deep pockets, or need it. Looking good though! I like the new design.