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Tony D

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  1. As to AFFORDABLE...

     

    If you look in the classifieds here, there was a VERY reasonably priced NOS Direct-Port system with spare jets and all.

     

    WAS a very reasonably priced system.

     

    I'm sure when it arrives I might be persuaded to flip it...but not nearly as reasonably! :D

     

    No, that's a lie. It's MINE now. Go find your own! :P

     

    USED NOS / VENOM / Nitrous Express systems are available all the time on E-Bay. CHEAP!

     

    Hell, a brand new 10# bottle is only $200 from Summitt Racing.

     

    And to quote the NOS propaganda (which I tend to agree with):

    "NOS offers DOT-approved nitrous bottles in a variety of sizes and finishes to suit your needs. The bottles come with an NOS/CGA-approved high-flow valve and built-in siphon tube. For extra safety, NOS has designed an exclusive blow-off venting system. If your bottle is overfilled or if pressure increases beyond the maximum safety level, the vent opens and discharges the nitrous into a safe place."

     

    If, indeed, NOS is holding an 'Exclusive' to the blow down tube, they are the only system I'd use! They have been the only one I've used, personally anyway, ever since they were in the Garage over by Cyprus College... I'm not big on compressed gas accidents.

  2. The man makes the most valid point of them all.

     

    This can be see with Natural Gas. When you transport Natural Gas over the ocean, it's in cryogenic liquid form due to energy content per size.

     

    A propane tank sized LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas) will have the GGE (Gas Gallon Equivalent) of about 5 gallons of gasoline.

    The same 5 GGE in CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) will require roughly two cylinders like your normal welding setup (120CF T-Cylinder) for Oxygen compressed to nearly 3800psig.You store FAR more in a liquid form than you EVER will in a compressed-gas form.

     

    In addition to being a medium pressure compressed gas container, they are also designed to handle that same pressure in a semi-cryogenic state as the liquid inside boils off and chills the container. The metallurgy in a cryogenic state is different than at room temperature or elevated to exhaust-valve temperatures. It's all taken into consideration in the design of the vessel being employed in the application.

     

    The boiling action in the CO2 results from the fact that CO2 is a liquid at normal pressures around -110F, you boil it at room temperature until it reaches a pressure in the vessel where the vapor pressure equalizes and it remains stable as a liquid. The same thing happens in N2O though the delivery pressure will (like Propane) change as the tank self-cools as the liquid is boiling. This is why they use bottle heaters: keep the pressure steady therefore keeping the engine from running too rich and robbing possible power. Too hot, too much N2O, and you start metal pieces on fire and they burn from excess oxygen present.

     

    It's not a pretty picture.

     

    Besides the tanks are CHEAP, and properly constructed as DOT Transport Cylinders for use in Motor Vehicles. Please reference my previous links to the moron transporting non-DOT approved cylinders near my house this time last year... :angry:

     

    This is what went off in front of my house, putting out all the windows:

     

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    DO NOT substitute Compressed Gas Containers for uses which they are not originally designed! DOT Transportable Cylinders ALL have a "solder plug" or other relief mechanism that relieves pressure should it be in a fire or overpressure situation.

     

    The TWO PROPANE cylinders inside this van did NOT explode.

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    Their solder plugs melted and the contents fed the fire, but there was no explosive release of energy.

     

    This vehicle had a standard welding T-Cylinder in it, and when the "pressure relieved" it blew across the interior of the van, as well as rapidly oxidizing everything inside it blowing the roof off and having it land over 120 feet away. The side door blew out, snagged a fence, turned to the west and cut down a small sapling before coming to a rest around 60 feet away. Did it mention that was after it flattened that fence in the process? <_<

     

    Consider the force required and released to split metal (STEEL) this thick:

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    LAID OPEN FLAT! What kind of force does that take? Still want to 'cut costs' on a pressure vessel containing oxygenate inside it???

  3. Yes, it's more than just the C-to-C distance that can be inspected. Even as little as 0.001" twist in a rod can alter the wearing pattern in the cylinder and get scuffing issues due to thrust being incorrect.

     

    Twist, Bend, C-to-C, Big End Diameter, Small End Diameter are the minimum checks I know should be performed. Some places weight match or at least give you the weights of each end and overall. This is more prevalent on V engines and 'rod pairs' but it's always nice to know. That way you don't go 'WOW!' at the next e-bay auction with 900gm forged billet rods knowing yours are really about 1/2 that weight already! :D

  4. That Tomei can be had off E-Bay for under $200 DELIVERED (direct from Japan via EMS post, I got mine in 4 days from sale close!)

     

    Trick: Drop Ship direct from Japan. The sale I found was posted on E-Bay AUSTRALIA. And the exchange rate helped about 15% at the time. It think it hurts now.

     

    What you can do if physical clearance of the cam is your concern and you don't want to pull the head to clay the valves is take some larger diameter solder and lay it over the piston dome through the spark plug hole, and slowly crank the engine over by hand. If you feel it hit, you know you're close...but by measuring the indentation you know EXACTLY how close you are. This one isn't rocket science, when you are near TDC you can rock it back and forth and move the solder a bit to make sure you get the thing 'worst smashed' so you know the closest point.

     

    Then you can alter your timing and see if you make it better.

     

    I don't think more than one link is ever advisable. I did one link one time and the customer loved the results-it was a tiger up to 5000rpms. Seriously moved the torque down in the RPM range. But it was terrible at 5000 and up. Power came on around 2200 N/A. That was a stock A-Style as I recall.

     

    Problem with the turbo is that you will mask the timing changes quite a bit. I'd still suggest after checking physical clearance, you wire the wastegate open and at least do 'butt dyno' runs with no or as little boost as possible. This will get you closer faster than if you even boost to 3-5 psi.

  5. Really the only thing to do is dyno it, that is the absolute quickest way. With an adjustable camshaft like the Tomei you can make adjustments of 1/2 a degree (camshaft) right on the dyno and make another run.

    You really don't need to retune any fueling, making the quick run makes OBVIOUS changes to the torque curve you can see when you are as far off as you think you are. The issue is the turbo will skew this somewhat, and I might actually suggest you run the engine with the wastegate wired full open to minimize the effect of boost on the engine's torque production. One you have optimized it, put the turbo back into operation and you should be golden.

     

    Alternative would be to get a G-Tech PASS and make runs on a flat surface. It will give you a printout as well that you can compare.

     

    Sorry I'm big on the G-Tech but the second generation unit has proven to be so useful to me I can't help it! Heck, the FIRST generation box was a revelation to me for checking brake and tire improvements...not something it's supposed to do. And apparently more geeks were doing it as well because they incorporated all that stuff into the PASS model. Not cheap...but I digress.

     

    According to what JeffP got out of several manufacturers the Rockwell Hardness of the components is about 60-65 and one is slightly harder than the other to put the wear on an easily changed piece (I guess that would mean the cam is 65, and the rocker follower is 60...)

     

    Both components are sufficiently hard that sliding friction should not affect them if lubricated properly. But you know how that goes these days!

     

    A side note here is that Paeco in Birmingham AL formerly would hardface the lobes. Weld on super hard metal like you would put on Backhoe Buckets and Scraper Blades. Seriously hard stuff. They would guarantee no wear or damage to the lobe once this was applied. Basically it was so hard it would eat whatever other component it was running against. They would use this on hard to find lobes, or journals to restore the components to standard size. They would do this on rod or main journals as well. Push comes to shove, ultimately, if they still offer this "Paecolloy" service you could have them build up the lobes and then have them ground where you want. I'm sure the grinder will absolutely LOVE you taking a near-billet cam that is hard as hell into them to be ground...

     

    Also, the stones used to grind the cam should really be dressed properly. When you do a profile of the cam surface, you can sometimes see where the grinder laid the stone against the cam before engaging the drive. This leaves a flat spot over several degrees. Over time, that can cause issues as well. The guy who can go in depth about this is JeffP. He did work for Sig Erson for a while, and when working on the "Secret Project" got a LOT of information about the current state-of-the-art in the business.

     

    In discussions with Ron @ Isky, he actually quickly corrected us about 'Crappy CWC Cam Blanks' in that technically they have "Far superior metallurgy than the old Japan Cams...But there's something about that Nissan Japan Chilled Billet Process that makes them just WORK better than anything else in these L-Engines."

  6. My father seemed to think so, in my younger years...

     

    They want to impress me, use the active targeting acquisition system and place accurate shots downrange while in the corner WITHOUT altering their line!

     

    I'm a stiff judge, they have a LOT of time to practice!

  7. That is quite a bit, and can only assume it is from the poor tolerances in machining the pistons. The difference, if you have kept your rod C-C length standard, and your crank stroke has been checked to be identical (they can vary!) then it's down to the pistons. Thing is without measuring all this beforehand, you really never know where the stack is different!

     

    After machining, measure the weights, and equalize them all to the lightest one within 0.5 gm normal, and if you have a good resolution digital scale 0.1 gm. Of course this goes to rod ends, rods overall, etc...

     

    Let me see, what was that phrase again? "While you're at it..."

     

    :P

  8. If your rod lengths are different, you DO NOT machine the pistons differently!

    In that case the rod caps are Blanchard ground and the big and small end rebushed/reamed/honed to a standard C-to-C dimension.

    Changing the piston height will result in reciprocating weight differences...meaning removal of more material off the other "taller" pistons than otherwise would be necessary to weight-match them all. More work than is necessary given the ease of rod resizing--even in production engines they seem to "settle or stretch " over time and most machine shops have the rod machine in their tool inventory. This is a basic part of the overhaul process for even a stock build: hone rod big and small ends C-to-C and round.

     

    Reaming/Boring to standard or even a concentric round hole is a common rod overhaul procedure. In fact most people accomplish this step by slightly offset small-end bushings or by dozing the hole offset when opening the piston pin bore in the rod for the larger 22mm performance pins that come with most pistons.

     

    Rods are to be sized Center-to-Center before assembly so the only issue that arises is piston machining due to piston pin height variations which is then corrected at deck height check.

     

    Then every piston/rod is identical or rod/stroke ratio, pin height, and deck height.

     

    As to the 510, I'm more than simply a follower in that category...at least until Hondata tops our record. Many cars reach 150 easily and quickly, that's relative child's play. Start shooting for a Red Cap and things get a bit more difficult.

  9. "I do burnouts to disguise myself, you guys have all got it wrong. If you do a smokey enough burnout the cops can no longer see you. Therefore you have escaped."

     

    Incorrect. They hear you. Then, vision obscured by crates at the end of their beat, they see the smoke from your burnout rising. And they still can hear you...

    So they call their friends.

    Soon thereafter you find yourself pulled over with 12 Locked and Loaded M16's pointed at you and one very irate cop saying "so that was you with the little display in the parking lot about 15 minutes ago?"

     

    Suggestions when this is asked:

     

    Do not say "Yes, but it mus'n't have been so little if you stopped me."

     

    And whatever you do, if he asks you "What do you think this is, the Indy 500?" DO NOT reply whilst indicating with your forefinger "No, the Indy goes this way (counterclockwise finger), we were going this way (clockwise finger)..."

     

    It makes for a bad rest of the day...

  10. Nissan offered three thermostats for the Z: Frigid, Temperate, and Tropical.

    The tropical was 76.5C (170F), Temperate 82C (180F), and Frigid 88C (190F)

    1972 Nissan Part Numbers were:

    21200-78502 Tropical

    21200-A3001 Temperate

    21200-A3005 Frigid

     

    I find that most places only stock FRIGID thermostats for a Nissan, therefore leading to cooling issues internally to the head.

    I use Chevrolet Thermostats as I can specify the temperature range above (160-195) and with the addition of a 1.5-2mm weep hole have exemplary performance.

     

    If it's cold, run a hot thermostat to get your oil up to operating temperature as quickly as possible to prevent sludge formation and condensate accumulation in the crankcase.

     

    <EDIT>Oh, to answer your question, in a 75F environment, the STANDARD thermostat was 180F (that is, for temperate climates meaning not extreme such as Siberia or Thailand.) Like I said, most places don't stock those so you're likely on your own unless you can cross the above numbers to a current issue Nissan Piece or go the Chevy route.

    The 'bypass when thermostat closed' function is provided by an internal drilling on the right side (oil filter) of the engine which shunts from the head to the inlet of the water pump. Additional bypass is provided by the external bypass line from the bottom of the thermostat, through any number of items or simply returning to the inlet of the water pump on the lower radiator hose casting. You can usually aid warmup by turning the heater to 'hot' but not turning on the fan--this allows quicker circulation inside the engine that can be provided by the smaller tandem bypass lines.<EDIT>

  11. "'TKS 33 SA 4150' - which now lives in Nissan's 'DNA Garage' at Zama )was a replica. "

     

    Thanks for that bit Alan, I was comparing some shots I had of the car and some historical stuff I had and was having a hell of a time reconciling amongst other things lack of damage in some areas, and what appeared to be a 'mobile' decal for the number!

     

    It makes a lot more sense now.

  12. Our company charges $2,500 for a "check and balance" on a rotating assembly when we do a cleaning and inspection in the factory.

    If a customer installs that assembly WITHOUT using our "check and balance" service, they're on their own. We will not take responsibility for rotating assemblies that leave our factory without our balancing being done.

     

    They wreck it, we get $30,000 to sell them a new rotating assembly. Plus the other wrecked parts.

     

    They have us balance and it wrecks, we are on the hook for the repair.

     

    Our stuff only turns 17-54,000 RPMs, you think one turning 120,000 doesn't need it?

     

    Compare the costs above...my bet is the ratios are similar. Would you spend 2,500 to protect 30,000? Drop a couple of zeros and the same question remains...

  13. Disagree, there is a net BENEFIT to the rebuilder balancing them. They don't make money on the balancing, but they avoid massive warranty liability exposure down the road from vibration related failures from the products they put out with their name and warranty on...

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