ZT-R Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hey guys, I'm looking for a decent starting point for drag style anti-lag. I know some of you are running the aem ems. Is anyone using the anti-lag feature yet? If so, what are your settings. Thanks, Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Dwarlick or Synthtk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthtk Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I was using anti-lag in my setup, I will see if I can dig out my map and send it to you. I forget what I had set to make it work. Made a *huge* difference in my launches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I can imagine it would.... l e e n a s h 2 3 @ h o t m a i l . c o m if you need to email it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 You can post your tune if you want, i wouldn't mind comparing mine to yours anyway, like timing, IAT comp tables, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 wwwaaaaaaaddddajaaaaapppppaaapppapppappppp pppssshhhhhhhhh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTZ Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 ZTR how are you doing? Did you fix the crank collar issue on your motor? I run the anti lag just using the vss and even though I have fixed the crank collar problem, i am not using hard cut at all. Hard cut is lethal on the motor and mostly your turbo and oil pump. Do a 1 or 2 setting on your redline cut off. Its pretty simple to set the anti lag using your vss, just follow the instruction on the help menu. For a launch setup start 2step Retard Rev at 3k rpm as the start and 2step Ignition Cut at 3800rpm. Now depending on your 2step Rev Limit setting you will spool standing still as you step on the gas. Once again try to keep the Rev Limit numbers down as it is very hard on your motor and turbo. I have seen the compressor wheels shredded due to hard cut anti-lag setting on Evos due to the deflection of the turbine shaft and the blades shredding on the compressor housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 I have a R33 motor with the full face collar and a tomei oil pump. Here is a screen shot of my limiters. I'm not that knowledgeable with tuning timing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOZ UP Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I thought it was the high exhaust temps that killed the turbo, from the fuel mixture still burning in the exhaust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTZ Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Hi temps in anything isn't good but when using anti-lag over long period (over 12 seconds at time) not only creates rapid heat but also creates load shock. Anti lag works by miss firing the cylinders (fuel cut and ign cut) and pulling back timing at the same time (simple explanation for the complex process). Its puts all kinds of negative and positive load on all the internals very rapidly. The exhaust pulse created by pulling timing and miss firing is what spools the turbos. These pulses are not uniform and when engaged over a long period actually causes some major deflection starting on the turbine side and by the time it reaches the compressor side, things go boom even breaking the shaft. I gathered these information from talking to AEM tech support and 2 AEM certified tuners locally and getting in to extensive detail. Some of it went over my head. Edited January 29, 2012 by GTZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTZ Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I have a R33 motor with the full face collar and a tomei oil pump. Here is a screen shot of my limiters. I'm not that knowledgeable with tuning timing... Step 1. Locate your Options-2Step Limits table Step 2. Change your 2Step Retard Rev 3000 rpm Step 3. Change your 2Step Ignition Cut 3800 rpm You set the fuel cut high as you don't use a fuel cut for your application. A serious no no for forced induction cars. You set it up using vss so just read the guide and its easy to setup. I will mess with aem tuner and let you know on the next few steps for fine tuning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthtk Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 My tuning computer is dead, so I will have to pull the drive and try to pull it off that way, will do that in the next few days. How GTZ described it is pretty much what I did from what I can recall (car has been dead so long its hard to remember, haha). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) That's just a 2 step. Edited February 3, 2012 by ZT-R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Any updates? fuel trim? alt timing? Edit: Well I went out and played with it some, it will build boost like that but I'm scared to stay in it more than a split second at the moment. I do know your not supposed to say in it long at all though. Another question, is there a way to have this on a switch so I can have 2step and then have 2step with the antilag? I dont think I could get any traction with antilag on street tires. Edited February 5, 2012 by ZT-R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthtk Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Well I can't get my old laptops drive to recognize so no way to pull off the old map until I get the EMS hooked up again. If I recall there is no anti-lag section in the series 1 ems its part of the rev-limiter setup. I had anti-lag and no lift shift setup on my EMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Your twin disk like the no lift shifts? My carbonetic says no in the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S30rb25 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Anyone have a vid of their anti lag or 2 step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'll try to get one tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOZ UP Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I just got mine hooked up. I'd like to try and get one too. Maybe this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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