280zex Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I am about to do a gasket job on my blow thru Holley carb. I run a 4150 model 390cfm double pumper. I will take some pix and write down my current jets and air bleeds for you. That vac secondary system just is not going to work with blow thru. Google Hangar 18 mods for Holley blow thru carb setup. IF your carb is a true 4150 Holley model, the mods are easy and only take 1 day to do..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSamuri Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 I am about to do a gasket job on my blow thru Holley carb. I run a 4150 model 390cfm double pumper. I will take some pix and write down my current jets and air bleeds for you. That vac secondary system just is not going to work with blow thru. Google Hangar 18 mods for Holley blow thru carb setup. IF your carb is a true 4150 Holley model, the mods are easy and only take 1 day to do..... Thank you, I would be interested in your settings. Your comments about the vac secondires and from my research was confirmed by http://www.dtpprecisionrebuilding.com/ The car ran this set up in the late 80's early 90's according to previous owner who bought the car back from the friend he sold it to but never finished putting it back together. It still has the wrecking yard mark on it. Added two pictures just to confuse things, hard to tell what's right but it does show options. One from a parts web site and one from the FSM. Might as well flip it over and see. Assuming i will be running less retarded timing and that would mean rotating distributor clockwise then this adjustment plate may well still work, if not I'll flip it and / or dremel the adjustment slots. The diagrams are useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
280zex Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) ok this is my mods and adjustments for a Holley model 4150 390cfm 4bbl double pumper for turbo charging, blow thru style BUY the blue reuseable metering block and fuel bowl gaskets along with the teflon fuel bowl screw gaskets, your going to need them. Main Body Mods: Mill off the choke horn, fill in the linkage holes in the main body from the choke. use fuel resistant epoxy Block off the secondary side vacuum channel for the power valve in the bottom of the main body. Block off all 4 high speed air bleeds. IF you do not have adjustable low speed air bleeds: remove the brass inserts (air bleeds) from the 4 low speed air bleeds, drill and tap holes to accept Idle Feed Restrictors with a 1/8 tap. This is a less expensive mod because standard size low speed air bleeds cost more than the smaller sized idle feed restrictors. AND most hot rod shops keep Idle feed restrictors on hand, so hopefully no special order stuff Primary side low speed air bleeds are 77 Secondary side low speed air bleeds are 52 Metering blocks: I use 2 primary Quick Fuel no vac port metering blocks because I need a standard power valve for the primary side, and a modified Boost regulated power valve (BRPV) for the secondary side. Google hangar 18 mods for BRPV mods, or goto theturboforums.com and do some reading there... Primary Metering Block: Main Jet #51.2 Idle feed Restrictors #33 Power Valve #10.5 Power Valve Channel Restrictors #55 Secondary Metering Block: Main Jet #60 Idle Feed Restrictors #55 Boost Regulated Power Valve #1.5 -------- I.E. I modified a #1.5 Holley power valve to work with boost pressure, GOOGLE BRPV!!!! Boost Valve Channel Restrictors #77 Float Bowls: single fuel feed float bowls with #130 viton needles and seats. Nytrile floats 30 cc accel pump shot for both fuel bowls, remove the pump arm from the secondary accel pump diafram, I didnt need the double pump action. Throttle Base Plate: Install new throttle shaft bushings, dont be cheap, just do it!!! Remove the secondary side accel pump cam and arm Install the Blue accel pump cam on hole 1 for the primary accel pump shot Install an adjustable secondary throttle shaft link arm and adjust to where the slack is just barely taught Install a back fire protection check valve for the primary power valve if you dont have one, YOU NEED IT!! MY base plate is set up for 2 corner idle mixture adjustment. I tried the 4 corner idle base and it didnt work for me. IF your confused, just google it....or go to theturboforums.com Idle screw adjustment: 1 turn out from closed position on the primary side, CLOSE the secondary side completely or it can flood out your idle mixture. This is my current running setup. Im at about 150-200 feet above sea level You also need a boost refrenced rising rate ( 1 to 1 ) adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Low pressure-high volume, fuel return style. I use AEM I use the stock Nissan fuel injection fuel pump for the 280Z, stock fuel lines. 50 micron Edelbrock fuel filter with replaceable filter element. My idle fuel pressure is 6lbs. TO NOTE: use caution during assembly of the metering block and fuel bowls to the main body. The gaskets can bunch up around the air flute holes at the top middle section of the metering block ON BOTH SIDES. IF you dont get this right you will push fuel out of this area and have a 400 HP FLAME THROWER!!! The primary side metering block is pictured first in order, front to back. Edited July 30, 2015 by 280zex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 You can just move all the spark plug wires over 1 prong on the dizzy cap and hopefully its just the right amount to get the hold down screw back into the slot. Move them all over 1 prong clockwise to advance, counter clockwise to retard. By doing so you are advancing/retarding A LOT, so if you do this you may find that you're on the other end of the extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 By doing that you are advancing or retarding 60 degrees from wherever it was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 By doing that you are advancing or retarding 60 degrees from wherever it was... It didn't immediately cross my mind to do 360º / 6 but yes... maybe 60º is enough to get it back in the slot. The adjustment may be limited but it'll be a quick fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSamuri Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 I do appreciate the "quick fix" . I was half expecting this to be already the case before I verified timing. Although with an engine that had previously been worked on I am inclinded to try and keep the stock orientation (too many cars to keep track of), and am pretty sure that I will be rotating clockwise once I have engine back in, and the mofications and adjustments to the Holley, along with the boost retard on the MSD. Delayed by finding I was 3 pressure plate bolts short when installing the Centre Force 2 clutch, I had 9 bolt holes line up as opposed to the 6 on the old pressure plate. (My drivetrain is from a T5 equipped 280ZX Turbo). The Lisle Pilot Bushing Removal Tools worked well, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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