rb25/26 rear sump custom oil pans??

[BeastioBoi]

Anyone still making custom oil pans and pickups for rb25/26 engines?? I've tried contacting pat1 but no response for months.

[Jethoncho]

I’m in the process of making my own. I cut the stock steel RWD pan all the way around the perimeter just below the mounting flange.  I mocked the pan up on the bench and found with just a few minor changes, massaging and a fair amount of TIG work I am going to be able to turn the forward sump pan into a rear sump pan.  The oil pick up will need to be clocked and rewelded to adjust for the rear sump...I haven’t mocked that up yet.  I remounted the mounting flange to the block then mocked up the sump in the rear position (currently held in place with foil tape in preparation for tach welding) I’ll get some other photos up as the process progresses.

 

[Jboogsthethug]

Jethoncho, great looking job! I'll be doing that soon enough. But be aware of the angle of the pan, it is supposed to be at a slight angle drooping toward the driver's side. If you don't correct for that it will be on the passenger side and you'd have to add an extension to your oil pickup tube to reach that far end from what I understand. Pat1 actually covered that i a thread I read recently.

 

Beastioboi, as far as pat1, have you emailed him? He doesn;t get on the forum much anymore but his email is in his pan thread on one of the pages and he says to try that nowadays.

[Jethoncho]

Thanks Jboobsthethug! I appreciate the heads up.  I was aware the engine mounted on a slight tilt but I didn’t account for this in the pan modification. I’ll have to do a little more research before I start welding.  

[Jboogsthethug]

1 hour ago, Jethoncho said:

Thanks Jboobsthethug! I appreciate the heads up.  I was aware the engine mounted on a slight tilt but I didn’t account for this in the pan modification. I’ll have to do a little more research before I start welding.  

no problem! Glad to help someone not blow up their engine ha.

 

also, pat's email is: p.bowser@comcast.net

[BeastioBoi]

Thanks! And yeah i was thinking the cutting and welding approach myself at one point but the 26 pan is cast alum. Glad to see others still using the forums! Thanks for the email Jboogs. Ill try to start documenting my work so far. So it could possibly be some use to yall.

[Jboogsthethug]

On 7/19/2018 at 11:27 PM, BeastioBoi said:

Thanks! And yeah i was thinking the cutting and welding approach myself at one point but the 26 pan is cast alum. Glad to see others still using the forums! Thanks for the email Jboogs. Ill try to start documenting my work so far. So it could possibly be some use to yall.

 

oh yeah I love the forums! and good idea, the more documentation online the better!

[DestructoDeer]

I am about to attempt this exact thing.  I am concerned about modifying the pickup tube though.  It seemed to only want to enter the pan at a specific angle.  An angle that would be difficult once the pan is reversed.

Edited July 31, 2018 by DestructoDeer

[Jethoncho]

Hello,

 

I haven’t given the pickup tube any attention yet.  I would really like to figure out what the tube is constructed from so I could just reform an entirely new tube instead of cutting and welding jboogsthethug gave me some useful information regarding proper angle of the pan after sump reversal...I mocked it up and it appears I will trim one inch off the driver’s side (left) of the pan while adding 1.75” to the passenger side of the pan.  This will account for the 13 degree angle the engine tilts toward the drivers side of the car resulting in the sump having a nearly level bottom (about 1-2 degree tilt toward drain plug location).  I started welding on it on the past Friday...I added the 1.75” metal filler strip to the pan, I will likely continue by fitting and welding to flange tomorrow.  I’ll get some photos up once it’s cobbled together.

[DestructoDeer]

Jet, what are you putting your rb in?

[Jethoncho]

The RB is destined for my 280Z project.  Gonna be a while though as the Z needs a full restoration.

[DestructoDeer]

Im building an 83 280zx.  There are a lot more parts available for the 280z chassis.  CX racing makes everything you need.  And none of it works for the zx.

[BeastioBoi]

So I ended up going with the cx racing one, only a couple minor issues ill have to resolve to fix their pan so far... One the drain plug isnt the correct size for the threads they tapped it as, the second thing is the "hole-y" section looks like it was drilled rapidly and not fully cleaned of all its burrs, the last thing would be that the oil pan pickup is a little too steep of an angle so i have to bend it a little to have it fit in the stock rb26 oil pickup location. Was it worth the 471$? Sure. It takes a lot of the time out of making a pan, and isnt too bad for the minor work i have to do to fix it. All the welds look good, only thing i would have to maybe do is the weld might overlap the flat section where the bolts go, so I might have to use a dremel and grind the weld flat in the locations where it is near where the bolt heads would mount the pan up. Not too shabby.

[Jboogsthethug]

11 hours ago, BeastioBoi said:

So I ended up going with the cx racing one, only a couple minor issues ill have to resolve to fix their pan so far... One the drain plug isnt the correct size for the threads they tapped it as, the second thing is the "hole-y" section looks like it was drilled rapidly and not fully cleaned of all its burrs, the last thing would be that the oil pan pickup is a little too steep of an angle so i have to bend it a little to have it fit in the stock rb26 oil pickup location. Was it worth the 471$? Sure. It takes a lot of the time out of making a pan, and isnt too bad for the minor work i have to do to fix it. All the welds look good, only thing i would have to maybe do is the weld might overlap the flat section where the bolts go, so I might have to use a dremel and grind the weld flat in the locations where it is near where the bolt heads would mount the pan up. Not too shabby.

 

thanks for the in depth review of the pan, it's always good to hear people's opinions on a product, especially when it comes to these dang oil pans!

 

[Jethoncho]

Okay, so I have mode some progress, thanks to Jboogs I was ready to start welding on a pan that at minimum wouldn't have worked and at worst might have starved my engine and blew it up.  I originally cut the flange off and started to get ready to weld it back on to reverse the sump, I have since added a 1 3/4" filler to the right side of the pan and tacked the sump in place.  This gives the bottom of the sump a 1 or 2 degree tilt toward the drain plug side of the sump when installed on the engine (assuming a 13 degree tilt of the engine toward the driver's (left) side.  

 

Try not to be too critical of my TIG skills, its a work in progress as are my welding abilities.

 

[Jboogsthethug]

15 hours ago, Jethoncho said:

Okay, so I have mode some progress, thanks to Jboogs I was ready to start welding on a pan that at minimum wouldn't have worked and at worst might have starved my engine and blew it up.  I originally cut the flange off and started to get ready to weld it back on to reverse the sump, I have since added a 1 3/4" filler to the right side of the pan and tacked the sump in place.  This gives the bottom of the sump a 1 or 2 degree tilt toward the drain plug side of the sump when installed on the engine (assuming a 13 degree tilt of the engine toward the driver's (left) side.  

 

Try not to be too critical of my TIG skills, its a work in progress as are my welding abilities.

 

man this looks great to me! Would you mind taking a few pics of the inside to show what you did with the baffles or whatever they're called?

[Jethoncho]

Thank jboogs, I’ll get some interior photos as soon as I get it welded up and removed from the base plate I have it bolted to.  I also started a thread for the restomod of my ‘78 280Z, here’s a link if anyone is interested.

 

http://forums.hybridz.org/discover/content-started/

[Jboogsthethug]

1 hour ago, Jethoncho said:

Thank jboogs, I’ll get some interior photos as soon as I get it welded up and removed from the base plate I have it bolted to.  I also started a thread for the restomod of my ‘78 280Z, here’s a link if anyone is interested.

 

http://forums.hybridz.org/discover/content-started/

no problem, looking forward to it. also, that link seemed to be incorrect so I think this is the one you meant to post?

 

 

[ZT-R]

is the front part gonna clear the rack?

[Jethoncho]

Good question ZT-R, I haven’t mocked it up in the chassis yet.  To be continued...