toolman Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) I found this Four Part Video of a Complete Body Restoration of a 240Z car. This series of videos gives a good idea of how much work it takes to perform body restoration. The individual demonstrating the bodywork is a very skilled artisan and uses some specialized body tools. He repairs most of the bodywork with his years of skill. In some cases, a individual not as skilled can replace reproduction Z body which are now available in the USA. As I found out later, I think these videos were made in Switerland. European and Asian countries have Vocational Apprentice-ship Education Programs that student start into their selected vocations( plumping, electrical, automotive bodywork,etc at age 15. So the student starting learning a vocational trade at least 3 to 4 years ahead of vocational schools in America. Unfortunately, most people tend to look down on individuals who go to Trade Schools instead of College. Yet, they can make a Six Figure Income at their Trades. Video#1 Video# 2 Video#3 Video# 4 rotisserie To work on the Z Floor Body Pans, the Two Methods most often utilized is Car Rotisserie or Tilt Rotisserie. A Car Rotisserie costs over $1000 or you could rent on or make your own (using two engine stands). The choice is to construction of a Wooden Tilt Rotisserie. It built using 2" X 6" lumber and some plywood costing about $80 from Home Depot. Putting car on the Rotisserie I hope these You Tube videos were interesting for you. If you have any questions, please ask and try to answer them. Edited January 13 by toolman add pic and text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildky Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Found this series recently myself. moves kinda quick, no commentary. And they started with a pretty good chassis, at least compared to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AydinZ71 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I have done a complete chassis resto. Took me 3 years… oooof. Let us know if you have any questions. #1 take away: it is more expensive, more time consuming, and more tedious than one would possibly imagine, especially if you are stiffening the chassis and replacing rust along the way. absolutely, positively 100% worth the time and effort to find a body you can build from that does not require a full bare-metal resto. You will never get your time and money back, haha. Maybe for a rare European, but not a Z. Also, as popular as the rotisserie is, it can be done without. You wire-wheel the underside on your back wearing proper PPE, and use a brush to apply the epoxy sealer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetsaz Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 6:17 PM, AydinZ71 said: I have done a complete chassis resto. Took me 3 years… oooof. Let us know if you have any questions. #1 take away: it is more expensive, more time consuming, and more tedious than one would possibly imagine, especially if you are stiffening the chassis and replacing rust along the way. absolutely, positively 100% worth the time and effort to find a body you can build from that does not require a full bare-metal resto. You will never get your time and money back, haha. Maybe for a rare European, but not a Z. Also, as popular as the rotisserie is, it can be done without. You wire-wheel the underside on your back wearing proper PPE, and use a brush to apply the epoxy sealer. Even my "rust free" 280z had the floors replaced at some point (poorly, I might add). I'll agree with you here, it's so worth it to find a body that needs as little work as possible. His example in the videos is FAR better than most and still required some patching to get it to a high standard. Very impressed with his videos and the work on the hood though. It's almost motivating me to replace my floors properly, now with properly reproduced seat supports that weren't available when I made mine out of square tubing... slightly less tempting now that it's painted though haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolman Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 (edited) Thanks for all comments about restoring a 240Z. I decided to post these videos because when I started to put my 240Z in car shows, alot of people(young and old) didn't really understand how much work was involved, I spent working on the car for 5 years(working after work, weekends and holidays and about 2 years straight after I retired. i was lucky because My father own a Autoi Body Shop and I have ASE Certified License in Auto Mechanics and Automotive Collision. This experience allowed me to do 99% of the work by myself including painting. Built the whole car in my home 2 car garage. Also, made a Wooden Rostisserie to do the floor pans and some under carriage work. Since a new crate motor LS3 6.2L motor was going into the car, I constructed a 3/16" X 2 1/2"square tubing frame and midframe made of 1" x3" tubing. The main reason for going through all this work was this 240z was my First Car that I ever bought on my own. Everyone wishes they still had their First Car. right? Toolman Before After Edited January 13 by toolman add text and pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolman Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 (edited) This is Part 3 and 4 of the 240Zrestoration. These videos demonstrates pretty advanced body working skills and more specialized repair equipment but figured people would still enjoy watching it. Part 3 Advanced Bodywork Preparation for Primer and Paint An Alternate Method of Sand Blasting the 240Z body is to Spot Weld Four 4" Metal Casters to the Frame Rails. High Body Mounts would be hard to move around especially on rough and uneven surfaces. Especially transporting the 240z ona Flar Bed Truck to the Sandblaster. Most Sand Blasting Businesses have a Folk Lift to raise the vehicle to perform the sand blasting of the bottom of the vehicle. Having the vehicle couple high off the ground would make sand blasting of the under the dash and the bottom of the roof sections. If you did not have a rotisserie, the casters would allow the vehicle to move around the work area easily. Because of space limitations, I chose to build a Wooden Tile Rotisserie to work on the floor pans and rocker panels. The Rotisserie also allow work on under carriage and undercoating. Upon completion of painting, the rotisserie was taken apart and the lumber was used for other projects. Edited June 6 by toolman add text and pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolman Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 (edited) Finally, Preparing and Painting the car. This video was very good to give you an idea of what a complete restoration (body work and painting) would look like. In this case, the vehicle was already in very good shape with only minor body work to do. The cost of this particular job would vary reatly depending on local labor rates, material costs,etc, Also, remember this vehicle was in excellent body condition, most Zs would seldom be in this good condition. So I would guess this job cost would range from $15,000 to$25,000 if done in the States. Maybe if you have a similar body work and paint restoration done, you post how much you paid and what region it was done. Edited August 26 by toolman add text and pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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