HarrisonTX Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I see lots of guys with what i consider mild small blocks runnin in the 11's and 12's Im really tuning down the sbc i was going to build, and i dont wanna ask the question "whats it gonna run" cause there no way to really tell (altho i bet i will still ask it once i have the motor assembled) So, who has a slow z, i mean like a stock small block, or a 305 or something, that has taken it to the track, and can post some numbers... I wanna see what it takes to get into the 12's cause, its lookin like not much.. What mods, if any, and what tranny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zfan Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 A mild built 350 can go 12's it just depends on what 12's you are after high, medium or low 12's? A 9.5 to 1 motor with a 220-230 duration cam, decent heads, vortech, Edelbrock etc with a decent intake and carb will net you 12's all day long. Just my opinion though and we all know opinions are like assholes, everyones got one! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zfan Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 So sorry!! I thought they had grammer guard or something to catch the language. I apologize if I offended anyone. Boy I can be stupid! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 ******* isnt a bad word, considering we have there leader on this site.. Aux mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillZ260 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 LOL! Mike! I'm interested in this thread!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awd92gsx Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 For what it's worth...I think the JTR manual says somewhere that a stock 350 in a 1G Z will run around a 13.4 or so...with the exception of my edelbrock intake and headers, my 280Z with a fairly tired '350 "feels" like a 13 second car. 280Zone had an even more tired 350 with carb issues in his and WITH A PASSENGER and a slipping tranny ran consistent low 14's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_hunt Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 When we got the z it previously had a stock 350 and a th350. It ran 13.30's in phoenix with 4.56 gears and 26 inch tall tires, I saw the timeslips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrisonTX Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 4.56's, so thats a solid axel car then right? So with a 327, with a cam and some nice heads, and lots of aluminium, and a t56, i should get real close to 12's im thinkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patzky1 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 My first engine in the 77 was a freebie 2-barrel 305 with a th350 tranny. This was with the stock 3.545 rear end. The combo had like 152,000 miles on it. While the car was NOT slow off the line, it really sucked past around 3K rpms where the power just seemed to level off. It had no problems at all pulling itself up to the redline of about 115 mph even with the crappy powerband. Anyway, I don't have slips, but it would do 0-60 in around 7 seconds and probably 1/4 mile in the 16's. This was very close to the stock L6 engine's performance and just motivated me more to get the "good" mild 350 engine in it. So do I win for my (formerly) slowest v8 Z car? I want to see someone else chime in with slow times. Seriously, the only way one could be slower is with a 283 or something else that is tired and smaller than the 305. By the way, that engine had 145 horsies and 240 torque from the factory, so I was somewhere around there power-wise. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
280Zone Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Old tires, no traction... etc. Thanks for bringing this up Bill! Low 14's might sound slow but we were toasting almost everything we raced. Including several Mustangs, Camaro's, G35's etc. But that was the other car. I am shootnig for a 12 second car so I don't have to install a roll bar. Not that I don't want to be safe, but if my car has a roll bar in it I won't fit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24 oz Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Hey patsky i might have you beat, not that I am proud with this or anything but I have a 72 240 with a 77 ford 302 I know I am in the chevy section but thats what i bought my car with and it has 139 horses at 3600 rpms and 250 torque at 1800 rpms and its out of a mustang 2. Talk about some major power haha I am not sure of the 1/4 time i havent ran it but its not too slow because how low its geared, it goes 20 in first maybe a little more, so it gets off the line pretty good but once i grab 3rd its as slow as can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corzette Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Ill add a bit here. With my 350 and stock heads Comp 262 flat tappet hydraulic cam, stock iron heads, 650 Vac Secondary and 700R4 with 354 rear and 2 1/4 duals with Dart alum intake and stock convertor I ran a 13.7 to 13.9 all day long. Now with a simple head change to AFR 190s, 3500 stall and Roller retrofit to Comp Cams XR282HR and 2 1/2 exhaust, and 750DP I ran a 11.91 best on all motor. Heads are a big deal, then CAM, then Torque convertor in my case. I gained a .5 in the quarter just by changing the torque convertor! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 JTR manual says mid 14's at 95 mph with a 185hp 350 (4bl, stock manifolds, single exhaust, stock cam). That is an engine similar to a goodwrench 350 replacement engine. It will drop time quickly with a cam, headers, intake, carb, and aftermarket heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_hunt Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Yup, it has a nine inch ford rear end. Damn corzette that's some amazing change with AFR heads. I went from 12.33 to 11.70 changing from World sportsman 200's to AFR 220's. Both had a solid roller cam, just the head change, not as drastic as yours, but still a good improvement. I think a stock 350 will be in the 13's somewhere, from what I've seen a simple cam change and intake will put it into the 12's. And no 12's, even 13's aren't slow, that'll dust just about anything on the road these days, unless you run into another V8 z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest traub83 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 AFR heads rule Im going to be running thr AFR 220 heads on my turbo 350 im building to replace my suercharged 350, with that combo I hope to be solid 9's on stock suspension!! muah ha ha ha!!! But this wont happen till late next year or the spring after!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z-DET Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Seeing that my car isn't even running yet, I think I have by far the slowest Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jap tin Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 afr isn't the only head out there. Brodix has treated me pretty good for a lot of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest traub83 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 your right!! however AFR are the heads im going with unless, I go with the dart pro 1 220cc heads I hear excellent things about them aswell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsommer Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I'm running Trick Flow's I think for the price they're hard to beat. Solid roller cam, 3.70 rear and the butt dyno says... It's quick. No dyno number or 1/4 times YET, I will take this car to the track before the year is up AND get it dynoed. My goal!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators BRAAP Posted September 28, 2005 Administrators Share Posted September 28, 2005 These Trick Flow heads are a really nice head, probably good for 400 HP easily. I just bought this set that are still in new in the box sitting on my desk here, Except for this one I took out to inspect and take pics of). Trick Flow 195 CC intake Kenny Duttweiler signature series, CNC combustion chambers with the 1.47†springs good for up .540†lift, NEW still in the box. I’m considering selling them as I am seriously considering a more radical cylinder head for my current V-8 project. These heads are the Summit part number TFS 30400002-CNC. They came with screw in studs and guide plates 2.02â€/1.60†Stainless valves as well. Very nice looking heads for sure. If I wasn’t wanting something more Race oriented, I would definitely run these heads, (And I still just might do that any way). These CNC chambers are GORGEOUS! The castings are very nice and clean, comparable to Edelbrock as far as casting quality goes. In looking at the ports where they meet the valve seats, as cast, the transition is very nice, I see no reason to pocket port. If I do sell these TFS heads, it is a toss up between the GM Fast Burn and the AFR 210 Race Head… Decisions decisions… Gotta love these chambers… Exhaust looks pretty good as well. Seats blend into the ports VERY nicely as cast… Intake ports are very nice and clear, showing studs and guide plates as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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