nazar Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Ok guys, I did all my HW and have almost all the parts together GOt my q45 diff,all prepped and painted and ready to go. Got my arizona q45 mustache bar. Got my 4 inner CV's coming from a member, cleaned and ready to go. Got my hub adapters coming as well. NOW, axles. I am confused on this part and did my research. Is there somewhere I can order a set ready to go, sized appropriately and strong? I keep hearing about moser, but people are taking something in and getting something back. I have no axles(other than stock) does someone sell a pair ready to go for this swap? I am also currently fabricating a front mount. This project has been pricey but I like knowing I have a bullet proof rear end when I am at a track 200 miles away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastzcars Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Try thismodern-motorsports.com . Ross has the setup. He's also got the 4130 cromoly stub axels for a bullit proof setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 Try thismodern-motorsports.com[/url'] . Ross has the setup. He's also got the 4130 cromoly stub axels for a bullit proof setup. If ive gone this far, might as well go for hte 4130's. Nothing about axles on the website though, i guess ill just call him tomorow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar240z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=62 ^the stub axles^ you just have to ask him for the axles, they're listed as an option to the adapters, he'll sell them seperately though, mine just came yesterday...cost me 336 shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Contact Tim240Z for his contact at Speedway Engineering. He built me a set of Q45 Axles with their centers. I don't know the part numbers, but I'd bet they are easy enough to find. Tim, You out there??? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=62 ^the stub axles^ you just have to ask him for the axles' date=' they're listed as an option to the adapters, he'll sell them seperately though, mine just came yesterday...cost me 336 shipped.[/quote'] i thought they welded theirs to their adapter? I got adaptors from mas24Oz which are bolt in. Or will his still work? Im a bit confused now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilC Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 So am I.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwik240z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 With all of the confusion on this, maybe someone that has successfully done this swap can do a write up with instructions, part numbers, dimensions, etc. And Pictures too. Any volunteers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Speedway does make them, but they make them to order and their lead time is rediculously slow (they have better things to do than make sets of one-offs). My recommendation is to get them from Ross at MM. I believe they are made by Moser Engineering. There is a tutorial that I posted in the drivetrain forum a long time ago (while making Mike's set as a matter of fact). Do a search using my username in the drivetrain forum..... I don't do the axle assembly as it is too much time/effort than it's worth, and with the tutorial a monkey can do it. Mike's set was a favor to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Here....did the work for you: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=90068&highlight=q45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Sorry Tim. Wasn't sure if this was something you had planned to pursue on a more frequent basis. For the others, I made a stickie out of Tim's thread. Somewhere else in another thread I believe Mark had a step by step instructional on all the parts needed and how it fit. Be forewarned, There are other members who have suffered Diff failures due in part to the amount of power being applied to the rear. I believe the traditional mustache bar setup isn't capable of slicks and hard launches. Do a search and you'll see the topics being discussed elsewhere. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 No problem Mike. If Speedway was able to get them out quicker it would an option, but very few people want to wait 4-6 weeks for a set of axles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtcookson Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 from what i understand you would need this: http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=62 and this: http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=65 at the bottom of the second link is a drop down option of adding the custom axles to the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastzcars Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I was looking at the links but didn't see if anyone had made a machine drawing of the front diff mount? You know like the one Ron taylor made for the R200's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 from what i understand you would need this:http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=62 and this: http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=65 at the bottom of the second link is a drop down option of adding the custom axles to the order. i thought the q45 cv mates to the adapter which mates to the stock 240z 4 bolt hub...am i missing something? What is that $600 stub axle thing? Still confused, lol...here is how I see it in order from OUTSIDE WHEEL -> DIFF WHEEL -> original 4 lug/bolt square hub/bearing -> billet adapter -> q45 CV -> short axle -> q45 CV -> q45 diff Am i missing a piece?? In that formula, i am missing the short splined axle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastzcars Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 The stub axel is the one that the wheel bolts to. Teh CV axel is the the one that the CV's mount to. I think it's just the word "axel" that's used for both items. This is what happens to a "stub axel" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 why change the stub axle? Isnt that what the billet adapter bolts to ? 4 bolt to a 6 bolt q45 cv??? I thought that end stays stock, just bolt hte adapter to it, then the q45 cv, then the short axle, then another q45 cv, and then the diff ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtcookson Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 i don't believe you need to change the stub axle... a good reason to though would be because the 280Z design is supposed to be much stronger and you can get the much more common 5x4.5 lug pattern. you can keep the standard 4x4.5 pattern though if you wanted. basically, the biggest reason would be because they're stronger. if you're not planning on pulling all that much power it may not be an issue though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 i don't believe you need to change the stub axle... a good reason to though would be because the 280Z design is supposed to be much stronger and you can get the much more common 5x4.5 lug pattern. you can keep the standard 4x4.5 pattern though if you wanted. basically' date=' the biggest reason would be because they're stronger. if you're not planning on pulling all that much power it may not be an issue though.[/quote'] 280z stub axles bolt right into the rear? Ok, so what about the actual halfshaft, whatever you wanna call it, that connects the 2 cv's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 btw, the more research i do the more confused i get, now im totally geting frustrated I think im getting closer. Stub axles arent exaclty what i thought they were, i was talking more abou the SHAFTS that connect the 2 cv's So, if i get 280z stub axles, thats independent of everything else, as they will bolt together the same, still comes out with a 4 bolt flange that should fit ross's billet adapter just as well. The only difference is the 2 extra teeth and a bit thicker? Ok, so we got stub axles. Then the billet adapter that converts it to a 6 bolt. From there we put on the q45 cv. Then some sort of custom short shaft. From there another q45 cv. And finally the diff???? Where can i get these short shafts(1 is longer than the other correct?) DO they just fit right into the q45 cv's? BTW, where do i find 280z stub axles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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