fastzcars Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Quote:Originally Posted by fastzcars O.K. It makes sense now. Thank's for reminding me. Man I suck's geeting old. You mean it sucks getting old, lol See what I mean!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z_Master Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 See what I mean!!!! Didn't realize you're from the SGV! Not too far away from me, I go to Cal State LA (live in OC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastzcars Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I moved, I live in El Sereno now. I'm 5 minutes from Cal Sate L.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z_Master Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 I moved, I live in El Sereno now. I'm 5 minutes from Cal Sate L.A. Is the car there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 From what I remember, I used the 240Z wheel bearing seal. I don't remember 100% to be honest with you because it's been about 5 months since I've actually installed the flanges. IF these companion flanges are indeed identical to the 280ZXT flanges, the journal on the companion flange that spins inside the seal lip is about 2 mm (maybe 3 mm) smaller than it is for the Z companion flanges. This gap prevents proper sealing of the bearings. Just something you'll want to think over or look at. I've taken two approaches to the seal issue. One was using the ZXT wheel bearing seal (it is about 10mm smaller OD than the Z seal OD), set into a split metal ring, that then is inserted into the bearing carrier just as the Z seal would be. The other approach (which may or may not be easier) was take an R200 front pinion seal, and remove the rubber casing on the outer circumference only, then press this seal into the wheel bearing carrier (using a sealant) just as you would a Z seal. The rubber on the outer circumference is removed because the OD of this seal is about 1mm too large, and caused interference. Unfortunately, some seals use a thicker layer than others, so depending upon what seal you get depends on how frustrating it is to get the seal inserted into the wheel bearing carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert dog Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I've taken two approaches to the seal issue. One was using the ZXT wheel bearing seal (it is about 10mm smaller OD than the Z seal OD), set into a split metal ring, that then is inserted into the bearing carrier just as the Z seal would be. The other approach (which may or may not be easier) was take an R200 front pinion seal, and remove the rubber casing on the outer circumference only, then press this seal into the wheel bearing carrier (using a sealant) just as you would a Z seal. The rubber on the outer circumference is removed because the OD of this seal is about 1mm too large, and caused interference. Unfortunately, some seals use a thicker layer than others, so depending upon what seal you get depends on how frustrating it is to get the seal inserted into the wheel bearing carrier. Or, go to your local seal distributor after measuring the inner shaft and outer housing inside dimensions and match the up with the appropriate correct size seal. I have found many cross compatible seals that way. Most seals have their dimensions printed on them... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z_Master Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Thanks for the info guys, I'll check out some different seals next week when I have some more free time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Why??? He's running CV's, and the forward location would be better for weight distribution. OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcarnut Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Or' date=' go to your local seal distributor after measuring the inner shaft and outer housing inside dimensions and match the up with the appropriate correct size seal. I have found many cross compatible seals that way. Most seals have their dimensions printed on them...Mike[/quote'] What you need is a 70 x 40 x 8 seal, which is a standard size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I'll have to disagree on the dimensions. The ZX seal is 62 MM X 40 MM, and the Z seal is 72 MM (or 73 MM?) X 42 MM (I may be off by 1 MM on the OD for the Z). So what is needed is a seal that is 72 MM (or 73 MM?) X 42 MM in order to fit a ZXT companion flange to a Z bearing carrier (strut), and properly seal the bearings. The R200 pinion seal that I later used is a 75 MM X 40 MM, but the 75 MM is too large, which is why I had to remove the rubber off the outer circumference to get the seal to fit into the Z strut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcarnut Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Woops! Sorry about that. Terry is correct. I measured wrong. What you need is a 40 x 72 x 7 seal (again, a standard size): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 You'd think I'd know this, but that part number (HMS4R) can be picked up where? This is great information, and I'd very much like to get a set, but do not know where to start. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcarnut Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I would try the phone book and locate a bearing/seal supply company. “HSM4 R†Is just a SKF (large bearing and seal manufacturer) suffix of a part number. Just ask the counter person for a generic CR 40x72x7 shaft seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z_Master Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 All of a sudden this thread just got too geeky for me, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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