260DET Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Six piston Wilwoods, wow! you would think. But are they? The top end four piston Outlaws have more cross bolts than the Wilwood 6 which has only four plus one bridge bolt while the Outlaw 4000XD has 14 in total. That has to make the Outlaw caliper more rigid and so give better modulation on the track. http://www.outlawdiscbrakes.com/calipers.html http://www.wilwood.com/Products/001-Calipers/010-SL6/index.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I think as in how many pots there are 4 will do fine, but its always a good thing to know you have more stopping force than needed, with 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 6 piston = impress people at car shows. Use what works. Personally I think either will work just fine on a Z, but you read some of John Coffey's posts and Eric at EMI was complaining that John had the Outlaws. I guess AP's are really supposed to be the poop. But seems like the guys with the Wilwoods aren't complaining at all. Maybe its one of those law of diminishing returns things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I had no problems with the Outlaw 2800s that were on the ROD and the braking was as good as 275/45-16 Hoosiers can give. Erik came around after he drove the car a few times. The older more open backed circle track racing Outlaws are very flexible but the 2800s are designed for us road racing guys. Bryan Lampe bought the Outlaws off the ROD when I parted the car out and he's going to run them on his vintage racing 240Z, if he can sneak them by the tech guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I think Jon is on the money with law of diminishing returns. $200 wilwood caliper versus a $1000 alcon/apracing caliper.. 5 times a good you reckon? I'll be using 4SL/STs for my zed. The pad size is identical to the 6-spot you mention Richard, so all you're getting is more even pad wear, planning on doing any endurance races? I'm not, so the 4s will do fine. 4SL/STs on the front.. maybe the twin sumis on the rear? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 My thoughts too Dave, the Euro stuff while good is way over priced compared with the Murrican gear. Only thing is 'Outlaw' sounds a bit dirt trackish for us brand snobs, but a 'Nissan' sticker should fix that Let me know when you get yours? The 2800 eh John, they are reasonably priced too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy85 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I had no problems with the Outlaw 2800s that were on the ROD John - what rotors were you using with these and do you have any details on the adapters required to mount these calipers and rotors? Thanks Cameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Front rotors were off the shelf Coleman's 11.750" x .750" vented and the adapters came from a guy that used to sell these kits years ago. Rear rotors were solid Brembo 11" that were for a 280ZX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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