JMortensen Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I don't know if this is true, and the pics look a bit suspicious, but the story is pretty crazy!!! http://www.autoblog.com/2006/05/23/aston-martin-flies-farther-than-wright-bros/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 well in photos 2 and 3 the little white spot on the edge of the rim is in the exact same spot...could just be a circumstance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 It feels like photo shop to me. Look how the suspension still appears to be compressed, unlike any legit photo you see of a car in flight where the wheels hang down all the way. I don't buy that these astons have that short of a wheel travel that it wouldn't hang down any lower than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Real race cars like that only have a couple inches of travel, and a lot of them run droop limiters in addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 well in photos 2 and 3 the little white spot on the edge of the rim is in the exact same spot...could just be a circumstance... ever heard the phrase "when you spin, both feet in" ? I would lock up the brakes if I was flying too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 73Turbo240z Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 He's trailing tire smoke too... i'd wager to say the photos are legit... we've all seen the LeMans mercedes go end over end, so its not that much of a stretch to believe that a aston could fly some distance, especially since it looks like the edge of the turn drops off, which would turn a "slide" into flight... either way, hitting the dirt sideways, he's lucky it didn't barrel roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Workinprogress Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I saw this one on TV either last weekend or the one before. It bumped another racer and got the short end of the stick. Flew pretty far. Kinda cool that it managed to not dig in and do a death roll. Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 He can probably thank that rear spoiler for keeping it level. It most likely acted as a canard to keep the car from pitching up and stalling, like the front wing on these aircraft: Quote from Airventuremuseum.org website: "A canard aircraft has its tail planes located ahead of its main wing, instead of behind. The tail planes of a normal aircraft typically produce a downward force, canceling some of the lift created by the main wings. A canard surface creates positive lift, adding to the aircraft’s overall lift. Careful design of the canard surfaces can make the canard stall first, before the main wing stalls. A canard stall will then lower the nose and increase airspeed before the main wing stalls, initiating an automatic stall recovery, without a spin. This is the reason that many canard aircraft (including Rutan’s canard designs) are considered “stall-proof.†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 there was a new DB9 behind me on the way back from work today and i was reminded of this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I suppose if you've seen the actual race footage, it must have happened, but I can't help feeling like those photos are doctored. Something about the coloration and lighting of the car versus the background feels wrong to me. I guess if they are screen captures, that might account for some of this visual wierdness I'm experiencing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Workinprogress Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 They showed it in several replays during the race, then from other car's in-car cameras. The only ones that caught the airtime were the stationary cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcelectronics Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 The car is actually “flying†backwards, it had spun around and the air got under it and it flew like a brick!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 That happened during practice for the recent ALMS race at Mid-Ohio. The footage was shown during the race to fill time while a yellow flag had slowed the field. They had the rear brake bias set to high, locked up the rears going into a corner, spun and ended up flying into one of the sand traps. The smoke seen in the pictures is from the rear tires. It is real and the car went on to race last weekend and I believe came in 3rd behind the 2 Corvettes racing in the same class. Workinprogress, You're thinking of the Ferrari that was pushed off the track by the P1 class car. It was the same corner but the Ferrari didn't catch any air. Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Here is the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Thanks Jeff! That is as awesome as I thought it would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 good job on finding the Vid, I was hoping to catch it. and wow....that was really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnusx1 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Downforce in reverse = lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 Downforce upside down = upforce. Downforce backwards = drag more than anything else as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnusx1 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 The way that car lofted, I would say his downforce became lift...and of course drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 one could also argue that downforce is drag... maybe efficient drag, but still drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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