Buzz Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Boy do I feel stupid,I just spent 2.5 hrs tring to install a 4 speed into my 77 L6, what the heck.I installed the clutch,with a alignment tool,tried turning the output shaft,wiggling the engine, pushing the trany from side to side. O and I even have another imput shaft that slides right in with no problem.raised the engine, lowered the engine ,lowered the trany,raised the trany.funny thing is it's the trany that came out.It wouldn't be so bad if it were another trany.I'm just fustated,I'll get it.It's not the first trany I've installed,just been awhile! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 do you have the car on a lift? Thats the way to go! I put a 5 speed from a 83 280zx It has an awesome overdrive!! good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 N0, just laying on the floor,car on jack stands.It's just not going in striaght,I put in a new piolit bushing no play.I never had a trany go in so hard.Stupid question,I can't remember does the clutch disk go in with the springs facing the pressure plate,I think so? Mike P.s. Nice video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73GreeNMachine Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 sometimes it takes a lot of wiggleing and forcing to get it on. Try focusing on getting the bolts that connect the bellhousing to the motor lined up. if you can get a couple of those bolts in you should be able to get it in. Yes the clutch goes in with the spings facing the pressure plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 No the springs face out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So the throw out bearring can depress them from the tranny toward the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 the springs make a cone shape, and the tip of the cone should point towards the back of the car away from the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Not the springs or fingers on the pressure plate,the springs on the disk it self.I'm sure they face the trany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240hoke Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I found it works best to lay under the car with your feet on the front of the tranny and your head near the tail housing and wiggling and pushing till it goes in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 You also want to make sure the front of the input shaft isn't binding as it goes into the pilot bushing. I found that the tranny needs to be as straight as possible in relation to the engine as you push it forward otherwise it won't go all the way. This may be a stupid question, but did you make sure the pilot bushing is the correct size? Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Good question,It went in OK.LOL! I have a imput shaft from a 5 speed that slides in ok? I think it's just not lining up straight.I should measure the imput shafts on both trany's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 Ok well I removed the clutch and re aligned it and it went right in,Trany is in it must of moved .,Ok on to more stuff! Thank fror your help. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Job well done! Sorry 'bout the spring thing glad you got it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280zx Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 You also want to make sure the front of the input shaft isn't binding as it goes into the pilot bushing. I found that the tranny needs to be as straight as possible in relation to the engine as you push it forward otherwise it won't go all the way. This may be a stupid question, but did you make sure the pilot bushing is the correct size? Wheelman By saying correct size you mean it can slide on the shalf and take it off to test fit it? then put it in the crank? This is the part I'm lost, I destroy two already. the first one was the original which I tried pushing/wiggling/moving it, trying to get it in there, but it not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismopu Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 theyre a press fit so they shrink when you put them in, I use a reamer after its pressed in and it makes things so much easier. peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzzzzzz Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 The best approach is to install two or three long bolts with the heads cut off. These act as guides allowing you to focus on alignment and not kill yourself trying to hold the transmission up. Slight rotation of the transmission with the driveshaft or a spare yoke will aid in lining up the splines. Put a little lube on the alignment dowels too. Once installed put a couple of proper bolts in and pull the long bolts out. Save them for the next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280zx Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I'll do it tonight or tomr and I'll let you guys know my success . Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280zx Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Yup, I got it in, the one that came with the clutch was the wrong size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveosupremeo Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 the easiest way i've found to install a tranny is to turn the bellhousing clockwise so that the starter housing part of it is pointing more downward than natural and get it away from the trans tunnel. once it slides in somewhat rotate it back up into position. easy as pie! and yes the springs on the disc do face outward towards the pressure plate/transmission but they are usually marked anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffer949 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 2 of the biggest helps ive found in getting the tranny to slip in would be the spare yoke to turn the input shaft and then make sure you have the engine on the same plane as the tranny. i use the jack that comes with the Z and a block of wood and if it doesnt go in i can raise or lower the rear of the tranny till it slides in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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