buZy Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm looking at both but dont want to go through the horrors of removing the stock spindle pins. The MM part appears like one could sacrifice/cut the stock arm off, retain the spidle pins, and install the MM part....I know risky. Anyone ever try this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULISES Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I just ordered the AZC one's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm looking at both but dont want to go through the horrors of removing the stock spindle pins. The MM part appears like one could sacrifice/cut the stock arm off, retain the spidle pins, and install the MM part....I know risky. Anyone ever try this? I haven't tried it, but Ross was using that as a selling point. I don't think it's risky at all. Just like you said, you cut the control arm off and then slide each end off, and the end of the pin is just sitting there exposed. Slide the ends of his control arm on, and hook them up to the inner piece and that's it. Should save a lot of hassle with the pins too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 but dont want to go through the horrors of removing the stock spindle pins. Geez, imagine the absolute terror when you got to something really tough on a car. An air hammer gets any spindle pin out in 30 seconds or less - I'm undefeated in removing at least 30 pins over the years. Once you have the old pin out, replacing it with a new one liberally coated in anti-sieze eliminates spindle pin issues on that car forever. They really aren't that big a deal despite all the horror stories posted on the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I had one that I had to cut through with a sawzall. Tried the air hammer first, then the spindle pin puller, then the BFH, then the press. Sucker is still in there. I think your SoCal location makes a big difference too. Mine were SoCal cars and all the pins I've pulled came out fairly easily with the exception of that one, but I don't think people in Michigan have it as easy as you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Geez, imagine the absolute terror when you got to something really tough on a car. An air hammer gets any spindle pin out in 30 seconds or less - I'm undefeated in removing at least 30 pins over the years. Once you have the old pin out, replacing it with a new one liberally coated in anti-sieze eliminates spindle pin issues on that car forever. They really aren't that big a deal despite all the horror stories posted on the Internet. John, maybe you've been really lucky, or maybe it's the humidity down here. Out of the 8 pins I've removed/helped remove, only one of them came out with the air hammer. Believe me, we tried (for hours at a time.) Eventually we just went and got a 12-ton press. Even then, it still took a lot of time, patience and heat from a torch to get each one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preith Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I had one that I had to cut through with a sawzall. Tried the air hammer first, then the spindle pin puller, then the BFH, then the press. Sucker is still in there. I think your SoCal location makes a big difference too. Mine were SoCal cars and all the pins I've pulled came out fairly easily with the exception of that one, but I don't think people in Michigan have it as easy as you do. Agreed, everything on my Wisconsin Z, when compared to my other one from Texas, was night and day, pins being no exception...and I'm still trying to figure out why John named his clean SoCal car "rusty". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buZy Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 FWIW...My Z is from West Palm Beach Florida and I live in Minnesota. Unrestored s30 cars dont even exist here anymore! Like gone! I also have 78 280 Minnesota parts car wasted and rusted solid. Like Prieth said "a night and day difference". Sometime back I inspected the pivot bushings for wear and found the spindle pins to be some what new recently replaced. Since the car is jackstand racing all summer (ouch.. updates coming soon) I tried to tap one out with a light hammer last night. No movement. They look very new but they are sure in there. Willing to bet the previous owner didn't have the brains to antiseize them as John mentioned. That is a really great idea! Maybe they would come out unharmed but one never knows. When the bushings do wear old an option would be to cut the arm and just replace it all with the MM part. But cutting those OEM arms just feels very wrong too! A karma thing. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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