gjc5500 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Is there a sc off of a different car(inline6 bmw for example) that would bolt up to a L6. Hood clearance doesnt matter. i actualy dont want the hood to clear. I want to have the old school look of a carb sticking out the hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 6, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 6, 2007 Hi, A few years back, there was a Camden kit that included an intake manifold, 80 cu/in SC (if I recall correctly) and TB injection. You may be able to find a used model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy 77zt Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 there is a pad cast into the engine block on lower left side where a.c is mounted on l28.if somebody was good at welding and fab they could goto pick&pull and get a supercharger off of a middle 90's ford tbird sc for $100 or so and get busy with the welder.the pad has 4 threaded holes in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 The bad thing about the AC side (without using a custom intake) places the SC really close to the exhaust. I'm going to try to mount a M90 from a pontiac GTP where the alternator goes, and I'll probably move the alternator to where the PS pump is on the ZX. I'm thinking of making a custom pulley set to use one or 2 serpentine belts. Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 10, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 10, 2007 I'm going to try to mount a M90 from a pontiac GTP where the alternator goes I considered the same thing... makes intercooling straightforward as well. Here are a few picts of an early Eaton M90 I picked up on ebay for a fair price... . . . . Weighs 21lbs on my atomic bathroom scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Yea it's heavier then I thought it'd be. Also, mine is made to mount on a v6 manifold, so it's not like yours that you can buy the intake attachment like the thunderbirds have. Also mine has a monster TB on it (it's removal but I'm going to use it). Looks like there's going to be more SC'd Zs running around. Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rztmartini Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 has anyone considered the use of the M112 s/c? or will the M90 flow more than necessary? usually the z guys go for biggest and best...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 13, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 13, 2007 has anyone considered the use of the M112 s/c? or will the M90 flow more than necessary? usually the z guys go for biggest and best...lol Technically speaking, the M112 should work. A couple things to think about though... for a given amount of flow, all things being equal, the larger SC will spin slower. Due to the air gap between the rotors and housing, a slower spinning SC will 'leak' more. This *could* cost you boost down low in RPM. Is a M112 big enough for this to be a factor on an L28? I couldn't say. Oddly enough an M90, driven 2:1, would displace nearly exactly twice the air of an L28 at 100% VE... and at 7000 rpm, spin the SC at the max. recommended RPM of 14K. Would an M90 push an L28 to 400HP?. When you factor the parasitic losses coupled with terrible adiabatic efficiency... maybe, but I have serious doubts. I sure wish someone would test this scenario for all of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rztmartini Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 so the general concensus is that the M90 is the happy medium btwn the M112 and the M62? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 13, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 13, 2007 so the general concensus is that the M90 is the happy medium btwn the M112 and the M62? I don't know about "general consensus" but my opinion is that the M62 is too small to fool with. If you're building a mild street motor, the M90 should work well. If you're willing to gamble a little in the name of science, the M112 might prove worthy, especially if you're planning on running more boost via intercooling, race fuel, meth injection, etc, etc. Ultimately, this is a huge generalization. It really depends on what you're doing with the car and, because its largely uncharted/untested territory, you might find this to be hogwash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ronz240 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Is Super Charging the answer to get low end torque and reliable 300hp for my street machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 20, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 20, 2007 Is Super Charging the answer to get low end torque and reliable 300hp for my street machine? Welcome, If you're talking about positive displacement SC's (like pictured above), then yes it can be the answer. With this type there is no lag and usable boost can be made at 1000 RPM. Primary drawbacks are lowered fuel economy coupled with big HP numbers being difficult to achieve due to the low adiabatic efficiency (meaning, heating the air substantially for a given amount of boost), and parasitic losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003z Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 The stillen for the 350z uses the M62, I believe. I had it on my 350z, and there is a vacuum bypass valve on it that keeps it from costing you gas mileage, if driven in a sane manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 20, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 20, 2007 The stillen for the 350z uses the M62, I believe. Interesting. How certain are you? I had it on my 350z, and there is a vacuum bypass valve on it that keeps it from costing you gas mileage Most of them seem to be coming with the bypass these days... I've often wondered what it does to response. Seems logical (to me anyway) that it would take time to open/close. What was your experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.INSANE Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 What Ive seen Commonly done is people use the Jeep Cherokee l6 S/C Kit and modify it to work for the Z. Very simple setup EFI only though. Carbs are pretty much worthless for using for Forced Inductuion becuase they get so complicated. To Put it simply a Well Tuned FI setup will most likely be More Reliable and make more power than any Carb Setup when it comes to forced induction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 20, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 20, 2007 What Ive seen Commonly done is people use the Jeep Cherokee l6 S/C Kit and modify it to work for the Z. Examples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hey Ron, is that kit you mentioned the one that used to be sold through the Jim Cook Racing catolog, that bolted to the 4-barrell intake? I always thought that looked pretty cool, but I've got a soft place in my heart (or is that head? I can never be sure anymore)for turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted January 20, 2007 Administrators Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hey Ron, is that kit you mentioned the one that used to be sold through the Jim Cook Racing catolog, that bolted to the 4-barrell intake? Thats the one. I believe "Z-Ya" is using it on his Z? A local chap has picked up a used one as well... I've gotten involved in a Wolf install on it. Looking forward to the results. I always thought that looked pretty cool, but I've got a soft place in my heart (or is that head? I can never be sure anymore)for turbo. Its just different strokes, yes? I can find appreciation in just about any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Ron, Mine also comes with a vacuum bypass, but also a little electronic valve that controls it. Basically I'm hoping to be able to choose between sensible gas mileage and best performance at a flick of the switch. I need to post pics of the monster because it has more ports than yours that I have no idea what to do with. Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaCreech Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 man o man i've been dreamin of gettin a SC for my z but alas im not that good at that type of fabricating unless i could make an adapter plat out of Fiberglass then maybe....... but any who. If one you guys gets this goin and decides they might pyut together a package of a SC, adapter plate, belt, and some good instructions i wouldly gladly buy it if anyoen thinks this might b a possibility PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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