BobbyZ Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I have heard about hunting boar with dogs and a knife. There is lots of boar hunting in this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Wood Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 You also need to consider the type of terrain you will be hunting in. Pigs like to hide in brush. In the woods a 600 yard scoped rifle will be next to useless. A heavy round better penetrates brush. High velocity stuff won't fare too well. But a shotgun with slugs will stop just about anything. I vote a 357 pistol. A be a man about it and stay out of the trees. Or better yet, get a couple of pit bulls trained to hunt pigs. They have jaws that lock, so when the latch onto the pig he can't shake them loose. The pig will run through the woods until it gets too tired to drag the dog any farther. At that point you can walk up and shoot them point blank with even a small caliber hand gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Maudlin Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Believe this or not......a good friend of mine told me about his first adventure of hunting down boars on horseback, with dogs, and once the boars had tired some and was somewhat restricted by the dogs and horses, he jumped from the horse onto the back of the boar and slit it's throat with a big old knife....just as bschultz suggests. Really, its a true story.....I told my buddy he was nuts!!!! He said to me....."Oh, but the rush is awsome!" Mind you, this same guys races trophy trucks....how if that isn't enough of a rush in itself!!! Tom An acquaintance of mine was in his tree stand with a hunting knife when a deer walked under. Jerry, a Vietnam vet, looked at the deer and thought... boy, I have killed men and I have killed deer. I have killed deer every which way, with a gun, muzzleloader, bow, pistol... What would be really cool is if I jumped down and killed this buck with my hunting knife. Now Jerry was about 5'9" and 250 lbs. He jumped on the deer and stabbed it with his hunting knife. This made the deer angry. The deer stood there and pummelled Jerry in the chest and stomach. Every once in a while, the deer would start to leave and walk away. Then the deer would come back and punch Jerry in the chest some more. Jerry was lying on the ground by now. Eventually the deer left for the last time. It was after about 30 minutes of beating. Jerry went to the doctor and stayed in the hospital for a couple of weeks. When Jerry got out, he told me that the deer had killed him. Apparently, the deer had so irreparably damaged his liver that he was given 2 years to live. A year and a half later, Jerry went in the hospital and eventually died of liver failure. If Bambi can do that, imagine what Pumbaa can do. By the way, I think Jerry should have won the Darwin award for the decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Maudlin Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Oh, to answer the question. Every person I know who has taken a scoped rifle to pig hunt has been very disappointed. It is hard to shoot a moving pig at 50 feet with a scoped rifle. A female friend of mine used her 20 gauge that worked fine. My recommendation would be a .270 or bigger rifle with open sights. If you wanna go cheap like you said, an SKS will work fine and give multiple shots. An AK-47 shoots the same ammo and kicks a lot less and has better accuracy imho but they cost more. A Remington 30-06 pump rifle would work too, but it will tear your shoulder off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 18, 2007 Author Share Posted May 18, 2007 I think I am going to just get a cheap used, non scoped rifle. After I go through hunter safety I am going to look for an old WWII rifle, something that uses 30-06 or one of those old russian things with an equivalent size round 7.6Xmm. I think that will be a good start. The lady at big 5 was very helpful, told me to check if it is "shot out" and recommended I go to "the gun exchange" where a bunch of old guys can tell me the best way to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_hunt Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 M1 garand baby!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy 77zt Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 in the coast range mountains in central ca there are lotsa of wild pig.locals use pit bulls to track them and shoot them after the dogs corner them.usually with 44 mag pistol.problem is the pigs dont move much in the day.if you see 4x4 trucks with vented boxes in back those are dog kennels.my pick of a rifle would be a good 30-06 or .308-these shoot fast and flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 chris, if you want, you're welcome to tag along with me tot eh range, so you can test out the mosin nagant for yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 chris, if you want, you're welcome to tag along with me tot eh range, so you can test out the mosin nagant for yourself Wow. That would be awesome. I am living up in Davis right now, but I might take you up on that. I want to first take a basic hunter safety lesson/course then I'll contact you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 my grandfather used to sit in a tree with just a knife....then when one came under him he'd jump out and cut the throat...he was in some magazines for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 Well... I quickly found out that M1 Garands are not cheap or eays to find (this became my dream gun real quick... classic wood... 8 shots... 30-06, what else do I need!). I shot a 30-30 yesterday and liked it alot. I think the 30-06 will be better though. Any suggestions for comparable guns (SKS??? how much is it? Hard to find?). I prefer semi-automatic, but I want to buy a relatively cheap used gun. I think the Mosin Nagat is sounding like it right now... unless you all know otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNeedForZ Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 SKS = cheap, about 150$? Find them just about everywhere. The ammo 7.62X39 is weaker though, IIRC it is only a bit better than 30-30. I'd use a 30-06 Parker-Hale : modernized Mauser action(control feed), adjustable trigger and a quick safety. If you want to use the Mosin Nagant, you want to make sure you know how to operate the safety in a hurry(a bit tricky). A Parker-Hale Mauser action rifle : http://www.waldu.ee/pood/parkerhale.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 safety? lol. we don't need safety! b ut yeah, it's not an easy release from safety if it's engaged. sks's in california run about 200 for yugo, 230 for chinese, 300+ russian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 I am looking at krags and .303 Enfields right now. Something about a 110 year old gun makes me smile. The ballastics on the SKS aren't very good. The krags and the enfields are good though somehting imbetween the 30-30 and the 30-06. Unfortunately they might be more on the pricey side for gun as well as ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 .303 ammo is really expensive. if you buy quality stuff, it's 20 bucks for 20 rounds at most stores. I dunno, dollar per bullet = expensive. milsurp is cheaper but still expensive compared to mosins you can get a mosin 91/30 (that's 1891 design, retooled in 1930), in pretty damn good condition. an ATI monte carlo stock for 50 bucks. I bought 300 rounds of milsurp ammo for it from aimexpress.com for $30. It's pretty nice and clean ammo too. Also, 7.62x54r is pretty much the same as 30-06 and .303 you can also find enfields chambered for .308 as well. if you're looking to spend 300-400, I'd opt for the savage rifles big5 carries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNeedForZ Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 .303 Lee-Enfield seems ok, I just tested mine with several empty shells : although it is in theory a push-feed, but the large extractor let it functions as if it were a control-feed. Of all the common military weapons, the M1 Garand and the Lee-Enfield has the best sights : aperture, but they are harder to put a scope on if you decide to later. 230$? I didn't know Chinese SKS is that expensive in the US. Here in Canada we still allow import of firearms from China, we can get SKS for 150$CDN, thats about 130$US right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatMan Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Rudy - if you are in Davis, you probably know of the GIANT hunting/fishing shop in Vacaville. I think it's off Alamo. right off 80 (on the right as you are coming down the hill from Fairfield toward Davis). The apparel and accessories are on the first level while the guns and ammo is on the second. Lots of knowlegable people there, a TON of inventory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Rudy - if you are in Davis, you probably know of the GIANT hunting/fishing shop in Vacaville. I think it's off Alamo. right off 80 (on the right as you are coming down the hill from Fairfield toward Davis). The apparel and accessories are on the first level while the guns and ammo is on the second. Lots of knowlegable people there, a TON of inventory. Ya I do. They seemed a little reluctant to acctually help out when I went. Seemed more into selling me a new rifle than actually spending the time to help me choose something right. It was probably just a busy day... I had MUCH better success at a place called the RC "Gun Exchange", I will probably buy from them if I don't find what I am looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 the SKS prices are higher in california. they normally sell for 100-150 in states with less gun control. i paid $350 after fees for my russian sks. then again, it's in pristine condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/fishingitup/Guns/ Just bought an 1891 Argentine Mauser over craigslist.org. The seller is saying that since it is an antique I do not need to do any paperwork or background check. I do not know if rifles are "registered" or not to a person. Do I need to do some paper work at the gun shop to be completely in the clear? As for transporting a gun in your car, It is true that the weapon must be seperate from the ammo, but can the weapon be in the trunk of say, a wagon (nothing physically locking it away from you), with the ammo in the glove, locked. Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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