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I have a complete floor pan, a floor rail, and a roll cage project to do on my 280z. I would like to know if a cheap 110v mig welder from harbor freight willdo what i need done, or will it make crappy welds that won't hold at all. I don't have that much money to spend on a good welder, or i would get a mm 180. I would like some suggestions for good reliable cheap welders.

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A good welder can get the job done using cheap equipment. A bad welder will screw it up using the best equipment money can buy. Good equipment helps and its a bigger help to the inexperienced then to the journeyman.

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IF you were located closer ID let you try about 7 differant welders and get the feel for each, I own 5 currently and the neighbors own several. like Ive said before, Ive used a bunch of welders and while Im no expert Id strongly suggest a name brand welder and one with a 220 volt feed , 110 volt welders give good results on sheet metal but once you get into the heavier stuff like frames and suspension components your better off with the option of more heat and penetration, yeah EVERYONES on a budget, but buying tools that won,t get the job done correctly and effectively is wasting money

 

"A good welder can get the job done using cheap equipment. A bad welder will screw it up using the best equipment money can buy. Good equipment helps and its a bigger help to the inexperienced then to the journeyman."

 

THATS VERY TRUE UP to a point, and that point is reached when the amps are not available to drive the heat fast and deep enought to get the job done correctly, you can,t just go over and over a spot and get a good result.

YOU don,t need to spend a ton of cash either, but YOU DO NEED to know the differances and advantages and charicteristics of welders so ID strongly advise taking a welding course at a local college or night school a trade school etc. before spending your cash as its sure to pay off in much better choices being made.

 

read thru these threads

 

 

http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=124196

 

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80366

 

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80702

 

 

heres a decent fairly cheap mig, that will handle almost any car related steel welding

 

http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=907312

 

heres a dirt cheap stick welder that in skilled hands would work, but not nearly like the miller mig unit

 

http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=K1170

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"heres a decent fairly cheap mig, that will handle almost any car related steel welding"

 

Good machine, although I prefer the Lincoln 180c... But Miller is about to release an affordable Spoolgun for their lower level welders that is nearly the same price as Lincoln's, and will probably be better quality. Looking at the average time it takes to "complete" a project car, I would really suggest a small 220 machine if at all possible. Over the term of your project, considering time, effort, and materials that could be saved with a slightly bigger machine, I think budgeting for it is worthwhile. Most of the machines that are Significantly cheaper are not even in the same realm of performance as a Miller or Lincoln 140, and if you do want the reliability and performance, the small 220s are pretty close in price.

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btw between myself and friends, weve tried these HF & hd welders

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94056

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=55167

 

YOUVE GOT TO BE KIDDING, these were nearly totally useless

 

 

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93793

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94164

 

crappy quality but these at least did work ....some times... but not often

 

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=43550

 

I liked this one,no problems at all, but it was not as easy to use as some Ive used

 

 

heres some from HOME DEPOT

 

lincoln 3200, WORKS but BARELY

 

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100093231

 

the 175 lincoln a big step up, but still not what Id suggest as adequate

 

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100395926

 

Lincoln Electric AC/DC 225/125 Welder

 

GOOD BASIC NO FRILLS STICK WELDER

 

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100053881&N=10000003+90401&marketID=401&locStoreNum=8125

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A good welder can get the job done using cheap equipment. A bad welder will screw it up using the best equipment money can buy. Good equipment helps and its a bigger help to the inexperienced then to the journeyman.

 

 

I also believe that is true. I do not use the best machine at my house, but I have had a lot of practice welding, because it is my profession. At home I have a small Miller Maxstar 140 TIG machine, with 100% Argon. It is by no means as nice as the ones I use at work . But I do not have the need or funds to acquire such a high end machine.

 

Here is some welds I put down for my custom exhaust that will be going on my STI.

 

stiexhaust011vw2.jpg

stiexhaust005nv9.jpg

 

I'm also looking to buy a MIG machine for at home use.. Have you looked into the Clarke machines? Not the best duty cycle, but they are relatively cheap and use gas/flux core, but who wants to use flux core.

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almost any TIG welder has a huge advantage over a cheaper MIG because YOU can control the HEAT, its location an the rate of feed of the fill rods where you don,t have nearly that control on a mig, and can,t sit and heat and area without feeding wire like a tig or oxy-acetolene torch can.

 

BTW NICE LOOKING TIG WELDS

 

with a tig or oxy-acetolene torch you can usually do good looking solid welds once you aquire the skills with practice, the only disadvantage Ive seen is SPEED in welding a seam is slower, but the quality usually far outweights speed for home/hobby use, and not production use where time spent is a factor in cost

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