clsatt Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 has any one dropped a 944 engine in one of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linchpin360 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 you need to be more clear on what info you want. what 944 engine are you talking about? to the best of my knowledge there has never been 3.0 944. the 3.0 twin cam motor was in the 968. the 3.0 also came turbocharged in germany iirc. also, what car do you want to put this in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nope - late Model 944's had 3.0 4-bangers. Some were turbocharged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clsatt Posted September 11, 2008 Author Share Posted September 11, 2008 "one of these" referring to basically any z. the main challenge in my eyes would be to mate the tranny up in the back or converting it to run a standard behind the engine style transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlerMonkey Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 The 3.0 was available in the S2 (1989-1991)which then got replaced rather then evolved to S3 status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I don't think thats possible inless you swap the whole rear suspension. IIRC the transmission is attached to the diff, not the engine. And I too. would like to know what you mean by "3.0" in the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clsatt Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 there was a 3 liter and, I believe, a 2.8. I was wondering in particular about the 3 liter because it seems to have physically larger dimentions, not just stroked out. http://www.autometricsmotorsports.com/images/cars/ron/ron_g50.jpg it just seems like it could be done to me. the axles on the z would have to be modified/custom made to bolt up. the tank would have to move back. custom mounts. the reason it interests me; 3 liter 4 cylinder = torque. I know it's no v8, I'm just burned out on it. one can only eat mac and cheese or hear about eating mac and cheese for so long. try talking to someone that has only eaten mac and cheese for thirty years...thats how I feel about v8s in Zs. it works, it's great, its proven, the torque, the power, the parts are everywhere, their cheap. fine. have you ever had caviar? yeah it tastes like salt and it costs 45 bucks for a dollop,but thats what I want to see in my z, I want caviar under the hood. sorry... I have some serious pent up frustration... oh, and with the engine trans layout it should have really good ballance. just a thought. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 I think your in uncharted territory here. That being said I hope you can make it happen! Do you have a specific 3 liter Porsche engine in mind? Didn't some have balance shafts? Get the measuring tape out and see what fits and where the problem areas are. Obvoiusly the transfer case is an issue, but looking at that picture it might just be do able. Oh and lookng at your avatar I'm assuming you are talking about putting thins in an S30, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clsatt Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 I don't have an engine yet, nor can I afford one right now. I'm just planning ahead and hoping to get everyones thoughts on the subject. research and whatnot. and yeah, an s30. I have a 1970 with a good straight body but the engine sounds like it's been smokeing cigaretts for 40 some od years. hacking coughing stuff comes up every now and again. its gross I might fix the engine, I might not. I'm really just feeling out different possibilities. I want it to be kind of a period correct racer but at the same time, I'm not opposed to going with an engine transplant...for the right engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 oh, and with the engine trans layout it should have really good ballance. just a thought. The engine would have to be moved to far forward to maintain have that balance. Don't confuse balance and lightness. and another thing you would have to consider is that fact that you would have to make the trans tunnel larger in the rear and IIRC there was no driveline to "extend" so you would be able to move the engine forward. the trans connected to the engine through a pare of U joints. and to have it fit, you would have to maintain the 944 wheelbase. I think thats why you don't see very (if at all) 944 engine swaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clsatt Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 the trans connected to the engine through a pare of U joints. and to have it fit, you would have to maintain the 944 wheelbase. I don't follow. do you mean a wider wheel base or longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I don't follow. do you mean a wider wheel base or longer? GOOGLE WHEEL BASES! I have to correct myself. there are no U joints, the tranny and diff is ONE unit. and bolts directly onto the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clsatt Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 I get that it has a shaft that runs from front to rear, I understand that it would be a hurdle. what I don't understand is why it would be a big deal for the engine to sit between the front wheels as opposed to against the firewall. and as for the "track", I could see the rear wheels needing to be pushed further away from the transmission to adapt to the new axle geometry. but that might not even be the case. I don't want anyone upset about this, I'm just brainstorming. if I'm on to something, fantastic. if I'm off tell me where. I feel like this engine/trans/diff setup should be an option, be it out of a porsche or a vette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I don't think you understood me in my last post. There is no drive line in a 944 in order for this to fit, the engine would have to pretty much sit inside the car. I'm sure you can somehow fit a different transmission, but I'm sure that you would have to modify the bellhousing to have it fit on the engine. And porsche parts are expensive, even for the lower class porsches http://www.lambolounge.com/Chassis/Transmission/5000/5000.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clsatt Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 sorry, I thought you meant it would be longer... that does kindof put a damper on it. any one have any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 sorry, I thought you meant it would be longer... that does kindof put a damper on it. any one have any ideas? Do you have the engine? Its easier to work with what you have than to make something you don't have work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismopick Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Wow.... All I have to say is: IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. clsatt: do want to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars, and hundreds upon hundreds of hours to make this work??? And all the while you could have spent that money and time more wisely. If that's what you want, get to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Wow.... All I have to say is: IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. clsatt: do want to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars, and hundreds upon hundreds of hours to make this work??? And all the while you could have spent that money and time more wisely. If that's what you want, get to work. Wow, you're late. I think this question has pretty much been answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismopick Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Wow, you're late. That's funny... wouldn't YOUR post actually be late? Slow 24 hour reaction time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 touche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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