G-rib-73-240z Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Okay, thanks but why doesn't anyone make a nice piston set for the datsun l26? I would like to keep the original engine. my friend told me the l26 was a l24 with dished pistons idk if thats true or not tho but idk who makes l24 proformance pistons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemstr Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 grumpyvette, did you ever do the temp sending unit modification described in JTR conversion manual to allow use of stock 280Z temp sender unit in sbc engine? any problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 grumpyvette, did you ever do the temp sending unit modification described in JTR conversion manual to allow use of stock 280Z temp sender unit in sbc engine? any problems? thats one thing IVE not done, so I can,t comment on the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S130Z Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Ive got an opinion question for you. I am planning out my V8 swap and for my 1st motor I am gonna pull a complete turn key from a wrecked car. My two choices were either a Vortec 5.7 from a 97 Tahoe or a carbed 5.7 out of a 80'2 model car/truck. I will run a T5 trans along with it. Any thoughts on the best path for a 6 month temporary motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Ive got an opinion question for you. I am planning out my V8 swap and for my 1st motor I am gonna pull a complete turn key from a wrecked car. My two choices were either a Vortec 5.7 from a 97 Tahoe or a carbed 5.7 out of a 80'2 model car/truck. I will run a T5 trans along with it. Any thoughts on the best path for a 6 month temporary motor? the 97 motors most likely in better condition, less wear, rust and mileage and has the better vortec heads if its temp ID go that route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Ok this question really has no huge rush but I cant find the answer and its buggin me. On my trottlebody (twin 58mm for tpi) it has a cover on top, it is just a hollow void but it opens into the throttle body. There is a gasket and everything. I looked at the factory one also and it has the same opening. Im lost wtf is this for? Im guessing a diffrent application might need this open for a sensor or something? Im wondering could I fill in that hole and not worry about it? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 Ok this question really has no huge rush but I cant find the answer and its buggin me. On my trottlebody (twin 58mm for tpi) it has a cover on top, it is just a hollow void but it opens into the throttle body. There is a gasket and everything. I looked at the factory one also and it has the same opening. Im lost wtf is this for? Im guessing a diffrent application might need this open for a sensor or something? Im wondering could I fill in that hole and not worry about it? Thanks again a NAME PLATE goes on top, theres DOZENS to choose from available http://www.tpis.com/index.php?module=catalog_page&catalogPageNumber=162&catalogCategory=%28L98%2FLT1%29+Dress+Trim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 yea I have a plate I was just curious what the hole did like i said not a big deal but just one of those whay did they do that. guessing I just wondered what it was for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 I think its there to save aluminum in the casting process as much as anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S130Z Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Would TPI be a better option than running a blowthrough carb on a turbo app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Im not running the tpi intake going to run a stealth ram intake but it uses a tpi throttle body. the tpi intake is horrible from what Ive read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin280zx Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Would TPI be a better option than running a blowthrough carb on a turbo app? They both have thier pros and cons (FI vs. blowthrough). You have to decide what's right for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxfiend1967 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 hellllp ,I have a 400 in a z and cant get fuel pressure right it jumps all over the board. tried 2 different pumps 3 regulators. the last pump was a holley red which ,according to summit puts out 7 psi and requires no reguator. in my car it put out 15 psi . I cant figure it out .the only thing I havent tried yet is bypassing the factory line. there is a kink in the metal fuel line where I bent it I hope maybe the restriction in the line is causing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 hellllp ,I have a 400 in a z and cant get fuel pressure right it jumps all over the board. tried 2 different pumps 3 regulators. the last pump was a holley red which ,according to summit puts out 7 psi and requires no reguator. in my car it put out 15 psi . I cant figure it out .the only thing I havent tried yet is bypassing the factory line. there is a kink in the metal fuel line where I bent it I hope maybe the restriction in the line is causing this. IF you’re not using a RETURN LINE and a bye-pass style fuel pressure regulator that problems common, it’s NOT common with a decent 3/8" or larger fuel lines, (BOTH feed AND return lines) matched with a bye-pass style fuel pressure regulator. dead head style fuel pressure regulators are famous for that crappy control. naturally youll need to verify the carbs set up corretly with the correct jets,power valves, float levels etc, also, but the problem your describing is far more common to the dead head fuel pressure regulator designs. http://www.centuryperformance.com/fuelish-tendencies-understanding-fuel-pressure-and-volume-spg-140.html http://www.centuryperformance.com/fuel-system-troubleshooting-spg-142.html FUEL PRESSURE REGULATORS DEADHEAD vs BY-PASS STYLE dead head regulators seldom allow a stable fuel system pressure, you NEED a by-pass style system with the regulator mounted close to the carb, you can ignore the nitrous part of this diagram if your not running nitrous but the concept of the higher pressure feed bleeding off excess pressure at the regulator so that the carb sees a constant feed pressure is valid. it may help if you understand the difference in concept of how the regulators work PRESSURE IS THE MEASURE OF RESISTANCE TO FLOW THE DEAD HEAD STYLE REGULATOR Works with a spring on a valve that allows the valve to open once the DIFFERANCE IN PRESSURE between the sides of the regulator valves fuel lines has changed Think of it as a door that has 7-10psi on the feed side and you want lets assume 5.5 psi at the carb as the fuel pump fills the line it eventually (fractions of a second) reaches the point where there’s a volume of fuel past the valve with enough pressure to allow BOTH the SPRING and the fuel pressure past the valve to close the valve until the fuel is reduced to the point that the SPRING and the remaining fuel pressure/volume beyond the valve can not hold the valve closed and the valve is force open and held open until, that difference in pressure is restored. now lets launch the car hard, the pump that had maintained 8-10 psi to the regulator, 5.5 psi past the valve and the spring in the regulator is now fighting the fuel in the line feeding the regulators inertia, and the sudden drop in pressure as the throttle drops full open in the carb, what the pump sees is the full 8-10 psi or MORE the regulator sees a sudden drop off to near zero and it opens wide, if the fuel pumps able too it tends to flood the fuel bowl for a second then the valve slams shut, until the pressure drops off as you hit each gear the cycle repeats, the result is a surge in pressure and a rapid drop off in volume then a rapid flood of fuel that rapidly cycles as you go down the track if you had a accurate fuel pressure sensor at the carb you’ll see a rapidly cycling pressure/flow if some crud gets stuck in the valve it cant close and your carb FLOODS OUT, because it must fully close every few fractions of a second to work correctly the by-pass regulator functions in a totally different manor Assuming the same set-up but you replace the regulator with a by-pass style regulator, the by-pass regulator works by opening a valve too a much lower pressure path for the fuel to return to the tank, the open fuel return line. Anytime the pressure exceeds the 5.5 psi, you’ve set it to, so the fuel line to the carb can only see a max at that 5.5 psi. now the pumps sitting there potentially supplying at 8-10psi just like before, but it can never exceed 5.5 psi because the bye pass regulator bleeds of any excess the pump supplies. but lets look at your launch, if the pressure drops to 6, 07 psi nothing changes at the carb, it it increases to 10 or 12 psi, nothing changes at the carb ,if it drops to 5.5 psi or less the valve to the bye pass line will close but that’s seldom a problem, it the sudden changes in pressure and over pressures that happen when you suddenly change the fuel flow required or the (G)loads on the system that potentially screw things up, the bye-pass regulator style regulator isolates the carb and maintains the desired 5.5 psi FAR MORE COBNSISTANTLY Now let’s assume the spring get weak over time or the adjustment gets set at 4 psi in error, with the bye-pass style you’ll probably never notice, if you had a accurate fuel pressure sensor at the carb you’ll see a rock steady pressure/flow Should some crud get stuck in the valve and it can’t close NOT MUCH HAPPENDS, because its normally OPEN not closed If you check you’ll see MOST EFI systems are BYE-PASS regulated designs also due to control and reliability issues But on the dead head the cycle just gets about 20% more erratic and more frequent in the cycles, further weakening the spring over time btw your fuel pump tends to run under less stress and run cooler with a by-pass style regulator also _________________ if you can,t smoke the tires from a 60mph rolling start your engine needs more work! 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rdsk8ter Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 where would be my best bet for finding (year and model if known) a passanger side top mount alternator bracket for a sbc tpi? also If the car is 90% drag racing would I be better off with a tentioner or without. I could think of pros and cons each way. Or would I be better making the alternator pivot and lock in bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Nadel Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 1981 280ZX turbo. Mostly stock. Long block has only 1000 miles since overhaul by Nissan, three years ago. But most of those miles are on road racing tracks doing time trials, surprising many Vettes and Porches. Low miles because do not drive on street much and trailer to tracks. Engine is running strong and smooth making plenty of power, but suddenly starts to make whitish smoke upon start up and when throttle is blipped. Smoke is progressively getting worse. Static compression and leak down is very good. Have replaced valve stem seals, no improvment. It is not using water, but is suddenly using oil. But get this-the plugs look beautiful. When I drained and filtered the oil through fine paper, no lumps but the oil which had not been in long was amazinglly very very black. It is Royal Purple synthetic. Turbo is working fine, but will be installing my spare just in case the seal is shot. But I am not confident that will be it. What else can it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 1981 280ZX turbo. Mostly stock. Long block has only 1000 miles since overhaul by Nissan, three years ago. But most of those miles are on road racing tracks doing time trials, surprising many Vettes and Porches. Low miles because do not drive on street much and trailer to tracks. Engine is running strong and smooth making plenty of power, but suddenly starts to make whitish smoke upon start up and when throttle is blipped. Smoke is progressively getting worse. Static compression and leak down is very good. Have replaced valve stem seals, no improvment. It is not using water, but is suddenly using oil. But get this-the plugs look beautiful. When I drained and filtered the oil through fine paper, no lumps but the oil which had not been in long was amazinglly very very black. It is Royal Purple synthetic. Turbo is working fine, but will be installing my spare just in case the seal is shot. But I am not confident that will be it. What else can it be? The very black oil ,and using oil plus, the smoke but yet your passing the leakdown test tends to point to the turbo as a cause, if the engine was the cause the leakdown test tends point that out, and very black oil indicates exhaust or at least combustion contamination. Im going to assume youve got pressurized oil flowing thru the turbo and the high heat and exhaust gases pressent are some how mixing with the cooling oil on the turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv82xl Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'm looking for plans for an Engine Test Stand - "for Dummies" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 honestly, if youve got a decent welder and a tape meassure and some time, to kill, this is a reasonably easy project , and it sure beats paying $2k http://www.prwonlinestore.com/low-profilesetsaccessorizedunit.aspx heres some basic design ideas from pictures http://www.mightymount.com/ http://www.hotstands.com/ http://www.fordmuscle.com/forums/tech-exchange/471021-homemade-engine-run-stand.html http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Engine-Start-Test-Stand-Plans_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem230310166282QQitemZ230310166282QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SB-BB-CHEVY-ENGINE-RUN-TEST-STAND-PLANS-9-pg-FREE-S-H_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem320324798487QQitemZ320324798487QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools IF i was going to fabricate one ID start with this http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_406688_406688 ID buy (2) 3 ft long, and (2) 5 ft long sections of 1.5"x 3" box steel too weld as a base, and about 20 feet of 1" x 2" box steel as uprights for the gauges, and radiator,battery box, ETC. into. plus a section of 1/8" thick 1ft x 2 ft aluminum diamond plate to mount the gauges, ID buy (4) of these wheels http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200337096_200337096 and find a decent radiator from a salvage yard, Id get these gauges http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D4337&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D4327&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D4391&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AVM%2D30%2D4100&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D4498&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D4301&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=NEX%2D15512&N=700+115&autoview=sku for UNDER about $750 and most of thats GAUGES you can have a decent engine stand built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 is there anything you dont know grumpy lol? good reads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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