B00STDZ Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I have come upon some bumps, or what could be bumps in the road.... Well, I know alot of you have seen pictures of my car and know the kit combo I chose for my car. I am beginning to reconsider my options, and considering NOT keeping the cal z rear kit. Havent been very vocal about it on hbdz so I thought I would lay it out. In one way I am drawn to the uniqueness of the rear cal z body kit and in another way I've come to believe that this kit if more trouble than its worth. Seems like the pros of the kit is getting smaller and smaller in my opinion. Pros- Unique look (at this point the only pro I can think of with the type of car that it is) Cons- Wheel Wells need to be refinished, I know, what alot of you guys have said is true and cutting them back to run a wider tire Why do I need such a wide tire? If I get the wheel wells fixed and swap the suspension out to coilovers I could run like a 14-15" wide tire. Remember this car will be street driven mainly and only taken to the track every once in awhile Upon further investigation I am figuring out the look on the rear of the car really doesnt match the front of the car Can only use 2 types of spoilers to make it looks decent and not riced, either a touring wing or a whale tail. As much as this car is already a cop magnet a racing wing screams send me to jail for street racing. It just seems like it's taking more trouble to make it look right than its worth. And as for the rear kit I am moving towards would be the subtle z rear flares. Pros would be- Much broader choice in spoilers Not have to spend ALOT of extra money getting a custom made wheel and a custom made tire. Not worrying about how the wheel wells appear through the "vents" on the rear kit. (in my opinion this cheapens the look of the car and borders upon rice) Would match my front fenders Cons- Have to take off my old rear kit... would have wasted time Am I totally off? Am I on the right track? Remember this is a STREET car not a race car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 I guess whats getting me the most is the extra expense of getting such a wide rim and tire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naviathan Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Money money money....Nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five, ten, twenty, fifty, hundred, hundredS...Yeah sounds like a Z quandary to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoov100 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 i wouls just keep it how it is, i mean you already installed it and made it look good, then painted it, plus you have to ask yourself how much of a PITA its gonna be to remove them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsonian Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I don't think you can go wrong with the clean, flowing lines of the rear subtle z package. Certainly not a "bolt on and go" affair, but as you have pointed out the expenses of a wider rim and tire combo for the cal z on a primarily street driven car. I feel your pain about the never ending, added expenses that these projects seem to throw at you. Bottom line, comit to your plan and see it through even if it takes you way longer than anticipated to find the necessary funds,time, energy, etc... Me personally, am a stickler for the details and have dragged out my own complete rebuild waaayyyy past the amount of time I was intending, but it will be done the way I have always envishioned my 240 to be. Only you know what's right for your build, but if your asking for opinions heres my vote for the subtle z rears. "Money money money....Nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five, ten, twenty, fifty, hundred, hundredS...Yeah sounds like a Z quandary to me." Truer words have never sounded so clear as this statement, perhaps the mantra for the quintessential Datsun build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Remember you cant do everything. Im not sure if your going to go to college once you graduate but its something to think about. There js alot more Id like to do/change on my car but It just wont happen until after school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 It seems like it would be cheaper and look better if I just went with the subtle z rear flares... for the cal z kit to look good I need wide rims and tires on the back, with the subtle z kit it wouldnt look AS bad with the rims I have. And as far as wide tires on a daily driver... You never keep tires forever and haveing to spend close to $800-$900 every so often ISNT appealing. As far as college goes, Yes I am planning on going to college but I am fortunate enough to have parents to pay for my bachelors degree. Parents wont put any money toward the z though, Thats all on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsonian Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Here are a few pics showing the car that sealed the deal for me with purchasing a subtle z kit. Here is a link to photobucket album http://s535.photobucket.com/albums/ee359/Zedcar/Subtle%20Z%20Shots/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Any directly rear shots of the subtle z kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsonian Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 This is about the straightest rear end shot I took at the 07' MSA show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 That really does look nice... You say you have a subtle z kit on your car? Any pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slown280z Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Doesn't the subtle Z kit still add about 4in to the back? Your current wheels would still not fill the space right. I say cut and reweld your rear fenders and buy proper sized wheels and tires, keeping the JCR kit in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsonian Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I purchased the kit from John Washington at Reactionresearch.com well over a year and half ago but have yet to install. I am sloooowwwllyy gathering all parts for a l28et swap,completely adjustable suspension and Wilwoods fore and aft. I am getting ready to strip the undercoating, apply rustbullet or por-15, apply new seam sealer and most likely soda blast the exterior prior to paint. I have not posted any photos of my build because it is crawling along at a snails pace. Once I dig into the body work/stripping I will start a new thread. I have debated a few times in the past as to selling the kit and just quickly finishing my build but I reaallly like the coke bottle looks and extra width it provides and just couldn't do it. I will be starting a night course in 3d annimation in six months for 13 months so I'm hoping to get the ball rolling on my car. Either way you go on your build best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Doesn't the subtle Z kit still add about 4in to the back?Your current wheels would still not fill the space right. I say cut and reweld your rear fenders and buy proper sized wheels and tires, keeping the JCR kit in the rear. Cal z adds 3 inches YZ adds 3 inches Subtle z adds 1.5 inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsonian Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Three inches total, 1.5" each side for the subtlez found three more semi rear shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsommer Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Dude, what's the hurry? I've been building mine for NINE years now!!! Click the build thread at the bottom of this post to see where I am currently. I'm finally on track....I think Build it the way you envision it. If $$$ are not present at the time. Wait for a while until they become avaliable. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Dude, what's the hurry? I've been building mine for NINE years now!!! Click the build thread at the bottom of this post to see where I am currently. I'm finally on track....I think Build it the way you envision it. If $$$ are not present at the time. Wait for a while until they become avaliable. Just my .02 Planned on taking it to a car show in May, But I dont think it's gonna happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jknc90 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Planned on taking it to a car show in May, But I dont think it's gonna happen... I wouldn't rush the build in a way that you don't 100% like just to make it to a car show. Like dsommer said, build it the way you want. If you can't do what you want right now, do what you can and finish the rest when you can. Projects are never finished so why rush it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsommer Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Planned on taking it to a car show in May, But I dont think it's gonna happen... Yeah and I was "planning" on taking mine to ZCON in Sep. Possible yes, however funding it is sketchy at this moment. I still need some major parts. Transmission (G-force or A spec geared tranny), custom wiring, water/meth injection, body work on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attworth Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Dude, what's the hurry? I've been building mine for NINE years now!!! Click the build thread at the bottom of this post to see where I am currently. I'm finally on track....I think Build it the way you envision it. If $$$ are not present at the time. Wait for a while until they become avaliable. Just my .02 I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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