Empire Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 well since I hate doing mailorder, and with the shipping and exchange and all that, I'm making my own pipes. I had a pacesetter/msa/monza style 3-2 header that was crusty (came with the car and all the other extra parts). So I sandblasted, primed with VHT flameproof coating, and painted with VHT black header paint. ($25 in materials). Today I was at Crappy Tire and picked up 2 Cherry Bom Glasspacks ($55 for both) that are 2 1/4" inlet and outlet. Also instead of some really fany tips I got this rolled stainless endcap that just pops in there ($22 for both). So far I've spent about about $100, and all I need now is the pipe to connect it all. Any idea what it should cost? Stainless would be best but is it that much more? I figure with exachange rate and shipping I'd be at over $300 for the MSA stuff, and all the hassle of mail order. Anyone in Toronto that can suggest a place to make me up some mandrel bent pipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmettoZ Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Hey- Summit racing sells mandrel bent pipes in different diameters and lengths. They also have it in stainless (not cheap though) as well as mild steel. They also have those new style clamps that you can use instead of welding that work really well to join them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi303 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 are you in a dairy farm area? check out stainless steel milk lines and dairy shed outfitters can do really groovy welds too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 The same stuff can be had at places that build brewery equipment, I buy "sanitary bends" at a local place that builds stainless steel brewery stuff. Polished inside and out, and perfect bends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleriousZ Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 vibrant has ss piping.. there are a bunch of places in vancouver that you can get stuff too that I know of. I'm unfamiliar with toronto area though. You can also get that stuff off of ebay, but then the quality isn't guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Purple240zt Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 http://www.mandrelbends.com Brewery? I am in WI, those things are everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Sanitary bends are much nicer than what are offered by vibrant, and any other brands geared toward the automotive industry in my experience. They put the Burns Stainless stuff I've used to shame as well... Polished inside and out, perfect cross sections, perfect fit.... (Excuse the dust!) Edited May 12, 2009 by Drax240z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 pretty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Went a bit far afield on the original question I realize. If you are looking to do a quick and dirty exhaust system with some cherry bombs these are a bit overkill. You really can't do them justice unless everything attached to them is polished stainless and you are TIG welding everything. One of the better affordable mild steel bends I've found for exhaust systems come from trucking parts stores. Usually they are a coated mild steel, heavy gauge construction, and pretty decent quality bends. They should hold up well with a coat of paint afterwards, and sizes in the 2.25-3" range are generally in stock. I had an exhaust system on my Z built out of these, and got 8 years out of it, and after that point it was still completely fine, if a little ugly. (could have used a repaint) Edited May 12, 2009 by Drax240z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 can't think of truck shops carrying 2.25 stuff. I drive trucks almost daily for work, and everything from intercoolers to exhaust is usually pretty large stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_furious Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Perfect opportunity to make twice pipes with an X-pipe instead of a collector after the header. Would probably sound absolutely SICK. Someday when I've got a few hundred to blow at an exhaust shop I'll have this done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) I've got 2.25", 2.5", 2.75" (hard to find elsewhere), 3" and 3.5" at local truck shops in the past. Likely depends on what vehicles the particular shop deals with. Some of the smaller sizes are used for coolant lines I believe. Edited May 13, 2009 by Drax240z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Purple240zt Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Nice tip! Those brewery bends are beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleriousZ Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I've got 2.25", 2.5", 2.75" (hard to find elsewhere), 3" and 3.5" at local truck shops in the past. Likely depends on what vehicles the particular shop deals with. Some of the smaller sizes are used for coolant lines I believe. Truth. At my work we stock everything from 1.75 to 6".. We do both on and off highway detroit diesel applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayz Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Well, I cannot help you with the size you are looking at....(I was in the same bind as you at the time...we don't have much of those shops in Toronto) I have decided to go with 2.5 Stainless exhaust all the way. I have enough tubing and bends left for another one...It is taking space in my garage. Shoot me a PM if you are interested, I will let it go for cheap. Dayz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 PM sent. you've got enough material for twicepipes? Will dual 2.5's be too big for a pretty stock motor? L28 with early SU carb setup, taylor wires, pertronix conversion with flamethrower coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) If you are doing true twice pipes, all the way from front to back, dual 2.5" is HUGE for a stockish 2.8... I'd be looking at dual 1.75" or so, dual 1.875" maximum. Edited May 15, 2009 by Drax240z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsun723 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 mine are 2 1/4 but they aren't true twice pipes since they have a 2 1/2 collector... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 so I'm pretty sure the header ends at 1 and 3/4 inch diameter for each pipe (theres 2). It`s either that or 1 and 78`s, i forget. If I run either of those size pipes for duals (just like the twice pipe design), and then use reducers to expand it to the 2 and a quarter inlet of the cherry bombs is that good for size, or is it still too overkill and too much pipe diameter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madkaw Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I think 2.5" would be a bit big for stockish motor, but I'm no expert. I went with 2" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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