Indri Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) I know everyone here is tired of hearing about R200 swaps. So for that, I apologize. I just need reassurance before I commit to buying parts. I've done my research (thank you search function) but just want to be sure I'm not wasting my time/money on heading in the wrong direction. Stats: 73 240z, SBC conversion Goal: CLSD r200 (if I’m lucky enough to find an 88 SS, then a VLSD) Parts List: From a 87-89 300ZX Turbo: Differential CV shafts (to correct for possible steering issues) From a 75-78 280Z: Mustache bar Differential cover Yoke (also known as a companion flange) Adapters from Modern Motorsports: http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32_53&products_id=56 Is it really that simple? If I can’t find an 87-89 Turbo, what other cars came with a FOUR pinion R200 either open or LSD. I’d rather pick up everything in one shot, but if I have to settle with an open R200, then I’d rather it be four pinion. Where open four pinion R200s even used? If not, how much tourqe can a 2 pinion withstand? Just so you guys know, I hate posting this subject since it has been beaten to death, but I can't move on without having a piece of mind. Edited June 28, 2010 by Indri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG58 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Yes. If you get on here and multiple people have confirmed it fit, it probably will. If you're still scared and need a 200lb torque wrench or a hand, I live in Jasper, I'll come help you with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skib Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 If you're still scared and need a 200lb torque wrench or a hand, I live in Jasper, I'll come help you with it. Mags a smart kid, Id take him up on that either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I know everyone here is tired of hearing about R200 swaps. So for that, I apologize. I just need reassurance before I commit to buying parts. I've done my research (thank you search function) but just want to be sure I'm not wasting my time/money on heading in the wrong direction. Stats: 73 240z, SBC conversion Goal: CLSD r200 (if I’m lucky enough to find an 88 SS, then a VLSD) Parts List: From a 87-89 300ZX Turbo: Differential CV shafts (to correct for possible steering issues) From a 75-78 280Z: Mustache bar Differential cover Yoke (also known as a companion flange) Adapters from Modern Motorsports: http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32_53&products_id=56 Is it really that simple? If I can’t find an 87-89 Turbo, what other cars came with a FOUR pinion R200 either open or LSD. I’d rather pick up everything in one shot, but if I have to settle with an open R200, then I’d rather it be four pinion. Where open four pinion R200s even used? If not, how much tourqe can a 2 pinion withstand? Just so you guys know, I hate posting this subject since it has been beaten to death, but I can't move on without having a piece of mind. That is accually too much If you use a CLSD R200 you can use stock 280z half shafts w/ ujoints. no motorsports adapters needed, this prob being cheapest route. If you have a VLSD 300zx SS R200 you HAVE to use the CV shafts and the adapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indri Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) Mag58 - I really appreciate the offer. Unfortunatley, I'm overseas and won't be back in the states until about March next year. When I get back I'll have an entire body/mechanic/restoration shop available for use. I'm just piling up the "welcome home" goodies for now. Are there any Z clubs in Indiana? We'll definitley have to keep in touch! BOOSTDZ - I thought that using the stock 280z shafts led to steering issues. This car will see a lot of track time. I just didn't want to risk it. I'll do some more research on this subject. I'm not sure why, it just seems too simple. Nothing is ever that simple Edited June 29, 2010 by Indri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcraft Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) the four pinion ? is a good one .Have you or anyone else found what cars had the four pinion r200?Im guessing turbos?? Edited December 10, 2010 by tomcraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00STDZ Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Mag58 - I really appreciate the offer. Unfortunatley, I'm overseas and won't be back in the states until about March next year. When I get back I'll have an entire body/mechanic/restoration shop available for use. I'm just piling up the "welcome home" goodies for now. Are there any Z clubs in Indiana? We'll definitley have to keep in touch! BOOSTDZ - I thought that using the stock 280z shafts led to steering issues. This car will see a lot of track time. I just didn't want to risk it. I'll do some more research on this subject. I'm not sure why, it just seems too simple. Nothing is ever that simple Thats the setup on my car. Works fine. I have never tracked my car though. Yes you are correct putting a r200 in an early body lowered the driver? side is 3/4" too long for proper geometry. I believe this remains for the cv shafts as well though. You have to get it shortened but really... how much difference does it really make being 3/4" too long on one side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland240 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 That is accually too much If you use a CLSD R200 you can use stock 280z half shafts w/ ujoints. no motorsports adapters needed, this prob being cheapest route. If you have a VLSD 300zx SS R200 you HAVE to use the CV shafts and the adapter. I was doing a quick search and came across this gem. If I use the stock 280z half shafts I assume I also need whatever companion flange/yoke that attaches between these shafts and the differential? If I do need these, any tips for removing these from a car when I go to a junkyard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZhitman Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I'm in the same boat as the OP, and despite reading ALL of the FAQ's and ALL of the axle threads and ALL of the guides on the different differentials available for our cars, I'm MORE lost than ever. Heck, THIS thread has even gotten confusing... and I've built a LOT of Datsuns! SO, I hope the OP won't mind me piggybacking onto his thread, because I have a similar issue: Restored S30 with an RB25 swap. Stock diff just won't cut it, but I've got to have something that's better at putting the power down without breaking the bank. If I score an 87-89 S130 turbo VLSD, what more do I need to buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) You said you read so if you go down to #4 and look for LONGNOSE R200 on the first post, you should see the list of parts. From what I read though (same paragraph), the VLSD Longnose R200 only came in the 1988 SS model. http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/49194-differential-cv-lsd-hp-torque-r160-r180-r200-r230-diff-mount/ Edited July 18, 2011 by NewZed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I was doing a quick search and came across this gem. If I use the stock 280z half shafts I assume I also need whatever companion flange/yoke that attaches between these shafts and the differential? If I do need these, any tips for removing these from a car when I go to a junkyard? They're held in with a snapring, so a prybar or a big screwdriver pops them out. Really though, if you're going to a 300ZX diff, you should take the whole 280Z diff and mustache bar because you need the pinion flange to bolt up the driveshaft and the mustache bar too. I'm in the same boat as the OP, and despite reading ALL of the FAQ's and ALL of the axle threads and ALL of the guides on the different differentials available for our cars, I'm MORE lost than ever. Heck, THIS thread has even gotten confusing... and I've built a LOT of Datsuns! SO, I hope the OP won't mind me piggybacking onto his thread, because I have a similar issue: Restored S30 with an RB25 swap. Stock diff just won't cut it, but I've got to have something that's better at putting the power down without breaking the bank. If I score an 87-89 S130 turbo VLSD, what more do I need to buy? Get the CLSD if you can. I'll have chromoly CV's and stub axles in about a week that you can just bolt in and they will be plenty strong for your RB swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZhitman Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 You said you read so if you go down to #4 and look for LONGNOSE R200 on the first post, you should see the list of parts. From what I read though (same paragraph), the VLSD Longnose R200 only came in the 1988 SS model. http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/49194-differential-cv-lsd-hp-torque-r160-r180-r200-r230-diff-mount/ My bad, I meant CLSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZhitman Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I'll have chromoly CV's and stub axles in about a week that you can just bolt in and they will be plenty strong for your RB swap. Thanks Jon, interested in hearing more about this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I'll be making all the noise I can when I get the prototype parts in, have no fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZhitman Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) OK, I got the following from a Z31 turbo: Diff, rear cover, and axles. Eager to see what you've got, Jon. Edited July 23, 2011 by AZhitman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Looks like the parts are shipping to me next Tuesday, so I probably won't get them until the end of next week or the beginning of the following week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezDan51 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I've also searched low and high for information on diffs - throughout this forum but cant find a definitive answer. Im aiming for 500ft/lbs of torque and from what I have read the R200 won't be up to the job but there are conflicting stories. Obviously the R200 swap is much easier than the R230 so would much rather go down this route... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnke Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 (edited) where's that image that BRAAP always posted when this question came up? EDIT: Found it. Edited August 1, 2011 by Xnke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZhitman Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Good info! Just out of curiosity, what's a set of CV axles from the 88 SS model (the rare ones with the different spline count) worth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnke Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Not much without the matching diff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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