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Useful information
- · Download a Factory Service Manual (FSM). http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/48825-factory-manuals-some/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-1208329
- · Download electrical schematics for your car. PDFs are easier to read than those found in books. Some are in color.
- · Buy the book How to Restore Your Datsun Z Car by Wick Humble. It will save you hours of searching for "how to" info.
- · Focus on searching Hybridz as 99% of questions have already been addressed.
- · Start bookmarking Z car parts suppliers - there are many!
- · For SU carbs, parts and instructions go to Ztherapy. Buy the "Just SUs" video.
- · Remember these are 40 year old cars and will need restoration to be safe and drivable.
- · Join ClassicZCars.com website and search there as well.
- · Become well informed about modifications before asking questions. People will be more inclined to answer informed questions.
- · Search the forums.
- · Read all of the new member guidelines and FAQs
Links:
https://www.datsun-240z-upgrades.net/ Recommend the headlight relay harness
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Not sure how you arrived at Toyota front and back. Won't work.
The Toyota calipers only go on the front because they have no parking brake function.
The 240SX calipers have a parking brake function. So they only go on the back.
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3 hours ago, grannyknot said:
Take the car off the jacks and see what that does for the gap, the Tabco rocker re pops are pretty good but you still have to cut and modify.
Yep.
It is possible that having the car on jack stands may be twisting the body. Another possibility is that the car has been in a wreck in the past.
Try putting the car on the ground and test fit the part. Also, post pictures of where the part isn't fitting etc
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The problem with Hawk and Porterfield "street pads" is that they lack cold bite for daily driving. Both brands were like blocks of wood when cold driving in stop and go traffic. Freeway driving was out of the question. I switched back to stock pads and shoes from my local Nissan dealership for several years.
In 2009 I experimented with several of the popular brake swaps and ended up with Toyota solid front calipers, 79 280ZX MC, 280Z booster (nice) 240SX rear calipers with Axxis ULT pads all around. This set up worked fine for a daily driver and some mountain driving. But I kept looking for a better street pad. In 2017 I replaced the Axxis ULT pads with Carbotech AX6 pads. Very noticeable improvement. No more tweaking pad material.
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Zero noise. Lots of initial dust, but I dont care. I abused the pads until they smoked and no fade. Try them.
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What to do about Z brakes?
"The stock Z brakes are adequate for street driving, autox, and drag racing.
The stock Z brakes are adequate for street driving, autox, and drag racing.
This is not a joke. Even with a V8 or turbo pushing lots of hp;
The stock Z brakes are adequate for street driving, autox, and drag racing."
- JMortenson
Experiment with pad and shoe materials. After experimenting with all of the popular brake pads such as Hawk, Porterfield etc.
I prefer Carbotech AX6 material. Excellent cold bite that grabs hard the hotter the pads get.
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Clutch parts land bell housing parts used for 1989 Camaro WC T5 installation
Doesn't matter where you buy the parts. In the past I have used Carquest and Napa stock clutch kits
Bell housing: use a 1989 Camaro V8 bell housing. It has a 15 deg tilt to the driver's side. If you use any other bell housing you will have to make a mount designed to deal with the 15 deg tilt. Shifter comes up in the stock hole, but tilted to the left requiring notching the tunnel next to the shifter a small amount.
Clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder and Flywheel
1989 CHEVROLET CAMARO Zoom High Performance Clutch Kits HP1675-1A
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/zzz-hp1675-1a/overview/year/1989/make/chevrolet/model/camaro
Clutch 7/8 Master Cylinder Choices
Tilton 74-Series Universal Master Cylinder Kits 74-875U
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/til-74-875u
Wilwood Clutch Master Cylinder 260-10374
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wil-260-10374/overview/model/wil
Flywheel 152 tooth
Perfection OE Replacement Flywheel 50-6516
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/zzz-50-6516/overview/
Clutch Slave Cylinder 89 CamaroNAPA NCF 73110
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NCF73110Fittings and Hose
Earl's Performance AN to NPT Adapter Fitting 961603ERL
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ear-961603erlRussell Clutch Adapter Fittings 640281
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640281Earl's Performance Speed-Flex Brake Lines 63011732ERL
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ear-63011732erl -
Budget Build
You can build a reliable daily driver following the JTR V8 conversion manual for not a lot of money.
Basic daily driver swap:
- Stock SBC engine. JTR, MSA and John's Cars sell swap kits. Each has good and bad points. Do a search before you buy.
- Keep stock R180 differential
- Camaro WC T5 five speed transmission. Speedometer drive gear has to be changed to match the differential ratio if you keep the stock speedometer. Ref JTR
- Rebuild stock brake system and install braided SS brake hoses. Suggest Carbotech AX6 pads and shoes. Stock brakes are fine - see brake FAQs
- Replace shocks/struts e.g., Tokico
- Replace stock suspension bushings with polyurethane bushings.
- Replace sagging springs with stiffer springs that maintain stock ride height. Front 180lb/in Rear 200lb/in to 280lb/in.
- Install an aluminum radiator. Stock mechanical fan is ok.
Do the basic things to make the car safe and reliable and then drive it.
Read the JTR manual at least five times and study Hybridz V8 swaps until your eyeballs fall out.
Start with an unmolested Z car with minimum rust.
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Most of the information you seek can be found in Datsun Z V8 Conversion Manual from Jags that Run and by searching the HybridZ forums.
Useful information
- Download a Factory Service Manual (FSM). http://www.xenonzcar.com/s30.html
- Download electrical schematics for your car. PDFs are easier to read than those found in books. Some are in color.
- Buy the book How to Restore Your Datsun Z Car by Wick Humble. It will save you hours of searching for "how to" info.
- Buy the Datsun Z V8 Conversion Manual from Jags that Run ( see link below).
- Start bookmarking Z car parts suppliers - there are many!
- Remember these are 40 year old cars and will need restoration to be safe and drivable.
- Join ClassicZCars.com website and search there as well.
- Become well informed about modifications before asking questions. People will be more inclined to answer informed questions.
- Search the forums.
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Read all of the new member guidelines and FAQs
Links:
https://www.datsun-240z-upgrades.net/ Recommend the headlight relay harness
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/index.html
http://www.xenonzcar.com/reference.html
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Built two daily drivers as follows:
Pictures:
1972 240Z Hybrid V8 Built 2009 - 2010
Engine and Drivetrain
- 350 SBC Goodwrench crate engine rated 290HP
- Dyno: 240 RWHP
- 1989 Camaro T5 World Class transmission
- Datsun R200 3.54 differential
- Solid differential front mount
- MSA engine and transmission installation kit
- New Chequered Flag stainless steel stub axles
- New Nissan OEM wheel bearings
Cooling
- Arizona Z Cars Radiator
- Volvo (1997) electric fan
Brakes
- Front: 1979 Toyota 4x4 pickup S12+8 calipers with stock solid rotors
- Rear: 1989 240SX calipers with 1984 non-turbo 300ZX solid rotors
- Master Cylinder: 1979 280ZX 15/16
- Booster: 1977 280Z
- SS braided brake flex lines
- Brake Pads: Carbotech AX6
Suspension and Steering
- Tokico Blue struts
- Arizona Z Car springs: Front 180lb/in. Rear 200lb/in.
- Energy Suspension poly urethane bushings
- Wheels: 15 x 7 American Racing Ansen Sprint Mags
- Tires: Toyo 205/50R-15 Proxes
- Urethane steering coupler
- Nissan OEM TC rod bushings
Body
- Paint: 350Z Silver Alloy code K23
- 280Z Vented Hood
- All seals/gaskets replaced
Electrical
- Headlights: H4
- Headlight relay kit installed - no wires cut
- 100 amp alternator
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Buy this book: https://watsons-streetworks.com/product/basic-auto-electricity-book/
Useful information
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Download a Factory Service Manual (FSM). http://www.xenonzcar.com/s30.html
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Download electrical schematics for your car. PDFs are easier to read than those found in books. Some are in color.
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Buy the book How to Restore Your Datsun Z Car by Wick Humble. It will save you hours of searching for "how to" info.
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Focus on searching Hybridz as 99% of questions have already been addressed.
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Start bookmarking Z car parts suppliers - there are many!
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For SU carbs, parts and instructions go to Ztherapy. Buy the "Just SUs" video.
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Remember these are 40 year old cars and will need restoration to be safe and drivable.
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Join ClassicZCars.com website and search there as well.
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Become well informed about modifications before asking questions. People will be more inclined to answer informed questions.
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Search the forums.
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Read all of the new member guidelines and FAQs
Links:
https://www.datsun-240z-upgrades.net/ Recommend the headlight relay harness
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/index.html
http://www.xenonzcar.com/reference.html
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Download a Factory Service Manual (FSM). http://www.xenonzcar.com/s30.html
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Why not just buy a 300ZX? Seems to meet your criteria.
The S30 series (240Z, 260Z, 280Z) was designed as a sports car. It was expected to be light weight, simple and Spartan.
There are some simple things you can do to make the car ride and perform better for not a lot of money:
1. Suspension:
- Stiffer springs e. g. 180 lb/in front 280 lb/in rear. Keep the stock ride height.
- Replace all of the factory bushings with polyurethane bushings
- Install better shocks e.g., Tokico blues
2. Interior:
- Install sound/heat attenuation materials: Dynamat/Be Cool mat and reflective thermal fiber mat
- Install the full carpet kit available from MSA (further reduces heat and sound)
- Upholster the door cards to reduce sound
- Install better seats
- Install a sound system
3. Brakes: Leave stock, but rebuild as needed and use Carbotech AX6 brake pads and shoes.
4. Exterior: Tint the windows
5. Electrical: Install the headlight relay kit designed by a HybridZ member (Dave) and sold at MSA. Saves the headlight switch and allows higher wattage bulbs in an H4 housing
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Just go to a parts store and ask for heat riser flex tube of the correct diameter.
Summit Racing probably sells the flex tube as well.
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32 minutes ago, rand said:
Aha, that makes perfect sense. Thanks David and Miles! A friend printed out a FSM (the one here) for me as a gift and that hot air intake diagram isn't in it. Miles - which FSM did you pull that image from? It looks like my flexible tube deteriorated long ago. I'll reinstall the intake and hunt around for a replacement tube at some point.
Look here: http://www.xenonzcar.com/s30/reference.html
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See picture from Factory Service Manual (FSM)
Useful information
- Download a Factory Service Manual (FSM). http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/48825-factory-manuals-some/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-1208329
- Download electrical schematics for your car. PDFs are easier to read than those found in books. Some are in color.
- Buy the book How to Restore Your Datsun Z Car by Wick Humble. It will save you hours of searching for "how to" info.
- Focus on searching Hybridz as 99% of questions have already been addressed.
- Start bookmarking Z car parts suppliers - there are many!
- For SU carbs, parts and instructions go to Ztherapy. Buy the "Just SUs" video.
- Remember these are 40 year old cars and will need restoration to be safe and drivable.
- Join ClassicZCars.com website and search there as well.
- Become well informed about modifications before asking questions. People will be more inclined to answer informed questions.
- Search the forums.
- Read all of the new member guidelines and FAQs
Links:
https://www.datsun-240z-upgrades.net/ Recommend the headlight relay harness
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++1 Fel-Pro. 9 years since build with no leaks!
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Nobody is going to respond to this.
Do the following:
- Read all of the new member FAQs as required by HybridZ rules.
- Nobody can diagnose your problem without knowing the year, make and model of the car. Also, state any modifications to the car.
- Spend some time searching HybridZ and then re-write your description of the problem. Use the edit function on your post and re-write it.
- Download a copy of the Factory Service Manual (FSM) for your car. The FSM is available on HybridZ.
- Search before asking questions. Members respond better to informed questions.
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Per JTR page 10-2, the 240z tach will not work with an HEI distributor. The 260z and 280Z tach will work with the addition of a 15k 1/2 watt resister and some wiring changes.
The guts of the 260Z/280z tach have to be swapped into the 240Z tach housing because the 240Z/280Z tachs mount differently.
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Yes. Those will work.
When in doubt, call a tech at Summit Racing.
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All you need is one oil fill hole and one breather hole. Many choices with one screw in cap and one breather.
You need to keep at least one breather.
Talk to a tech at Summit Racing for advice on the cover and gasket choices.
For example: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/edl-4144/overview/make/chevrolet
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If you are not experienced with brake work there will be more challenges ahead for you doing this brake swap.
In the interest of public safety and your own safety, I suggest that you consult with an experienced brake mechanic before going any further.
Also, before you put the car on the road you should have a brake mechanic check the installation to make sure that the brake swap is safe.
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3 hours ago, tamo3 said:
Thanks NewZed and Miles.
The speed bleeder nipple is so short. and DORMAN's OEM version is a bit longer than original.
I tried both to put it into the brake hose port. It looks like both bleeder nipples not even touching at the tapered section at all.
My guess is brake hose port does not have tapered port. I will check other 280zx caplier's brake hose port.
Thanks!
Did the bleeders come with the calipers? If so they should work unless the seats are damaged.
Where did you buy the calipers?
Did the calipers come with parking brake brackets?
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I made some notes on the picture you posted. The bleeder is pointing up as it should be. Check the brake hose and make sure that as the suspension moves the hose does not rub on the frame.
It doesn't look like you have connected the parking brake cable to the caliper. Also, I don't see the parking brake bracket installed on the caliper.
Suggest that once the hose and parking brake cable are connected that you place a floor jack under the control arm (below the strut) and move the suspension up and down slowly checking for the brake hose or parking bracket hitting the frame.
As far as the bleeder leaking issue goes, check the internal bleeder mating surface in each caliper. If the mating surfaces are damaged or not machined correctly return both calipers and replace with a different brand.
Re-manufactured and even new brake parts can be defective right out of the box. For example:
- Maxima Calipers full of rust inside.
- Caliper piston seals that leak the first time pressure is applied.
- Wilwood brake master cylinders that leaked internally.
- Wilwood master cylinder bleed screws that were deformed and wouldn't seal.
'72 240Z sudden engine stalling
in Ignition and Electrical
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Confirm that the connections on the ballast resistor, coil and distributor are clean and snug.