Wools240 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hoping to get some help. I'm thinking about selling my project low number Z. I don't know what it's worth. The body is rust free. Paint hasn't even been buffed out. Interior isn't perfect no door panels. Rust free floors. I've looked to see what other projects are selling for but haven't seen any with rust free body. Any help would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Low VIN huh? That's a 280z body. Sorry to say, but someone screwed you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 rturbo930 - What makes you think it's a 280Z? The tail lights are 240Z. Hood does not say 280Z. Gas cap cover has a hole in it for the hardware that a 240Z gas cap cover has. Front spoiler has a cut-out in it for a 240Z style turn signal. Not being difficult - I evidently am missing something. Educate me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLATA Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I tend to agree that is not an early Z, the floor board picture on drivers side tells the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) rturbo930 - What makes you think it's a 280Z? The tail lights are 240Z. Hood does not say 280Z. Gas cap cover has a hole in it for the hardware that a 240Z gas cap cover has. Front spoiler has a cut-out in it for a 240Z style turn signal. Not being difficult - I evidently am missing something. Educate me. Radiator support (hangs lower, and beefier), and the remains of the crash bumper supports, but you probably wouldn't notice those unless you were looking for them in that picture. And the floors too, as Plata mentioned. Dead giveaway. Edited April 21, 2015 by rturbo 930 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravi757 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 A vin that early also wouldn't have the round badge on the quarter panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLATA Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I wonder if this is a case of a vin transplant , interesting to see the vin tattoo on body . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryant67 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'd check the engine bay for the etched VIN #. Like has been said though, not a 240Z. Vin is by the master cylinder, see pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLATA Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 So in essence this Z is worth a lot of trouble, yes and no . The title age will bring some ease , but why was the body re vinded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfg Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 He's got the series 1 hatch glass at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wools240 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Just to clarify a few things. This car is a Frankenstein, basically took a rusted 70 240 and a rusted 77 280 and used the best of both to put the car together. We weren't trying to make a show car, just wanted something to have fun driving. I am currently waiting on the carbs to come back from rebuilding. Still have a long way to go before the car is back on the road. Just enjoying working on it with my son. It will soon be his daily driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLATA Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Not to come across as an AH, but to claim it to be a low # Z is a large not so true statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wools240 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm new to the whole Z car experience. I got the car from a friend who lost interest in the car. He and his father in law did all the body work on the car. He told me about morphing the two cars together and gave me a clear title for a 70. The firewall stamp matches the title and dash. It didn't appear to be messed with. Like I said I'm new to this and didn't realize what was newer until I tried to put in the seats out of a 240. Again I apologize if I offended anyone out there. I'm just enjoying meeting fellow Z lovers and working with my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLATA Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) You are lucky that you did not post this on Classic Z, there you would have been ban, they take such alterations to the extreme, here we are a bit tolerant.:::::: BTW, pm me with your best selling price , but it needs to be realistic as this is a glued Z. Edited April 21, 2015 by PLATA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wools240 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well I'm glad I'm not on their site. I feel barbecued after this exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texis30O Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Just need to be forthright in what you present. No biggie, now you know the value is not what a true marked "low vin" car would be.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It is curious at which point what vin do you run. Either the firewall was transplanted into the later Z or the floor and radiator support was transplanted into the earlier one. The later is more likely, but seems like a lot of trouble and given the factory looking sound deadening in the floor also seems unlikely. A peak underneath the taillight garnish will also assist in assessing what the chassis actually is. Yes and do be careful. If you sell this as a low vin 240z and it is in fact just a vin transplant onto a later better condition car, you are going to be in a world of hurt. A "I don't or didn't know" is not going to save you as you made factual statements of the identity of the car which can be refuted. To answer the question, it really depends, shell wise and external body condition wise it is definitely worth more then 3k, probably in the 5k range depending on the quality of paint etc. The rest is quite variable, what engine is it running, suspension, upgrades, etc. The wonky identity really can break the deal though especially for insurance purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 My guess is that you would see the welds where the VIN was transplanted if you removed the cowl panel and felt the backside of the firewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wools240 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm pretty sure it has the 240 firewall. I've got a 280 brake booster that won't fit the holes. The new 240 booster that I special ordered fits perfectly. Those things are getting hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 That's a 280z floor pan and there's no indication it's been transplanted. That and the 280z radiator core support indicates this car has had the 240z VIN numbers transferred onto a 280z chassis. If so, this car is illegal in every state in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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