seattlejester Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Hey guys, I've asked on the specific make forum, but I feel like you guys may know of some other techniques. How do you remove the clutch pilot bearing, with the caveat being if you have blown out the seal? I was doing the hydraulic method and was using grease, then went and bought some bread as that was getting messy, got half a slice in there when the oil seal blew out and now it just pushes out the grease and even the bread between the ball bearings. The hole is like 12mm so the traditional pullers don't seem to fit, I ordered a generic one so I can modify it, but was hoping for some thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Except the orange seal is now blown out so the ball bearings are exposed and the grease/bread is coming through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHoob2004 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Have you tried a pilot bearing puller? https://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tools/pilot-bearing-puller-attachment/oem-clutch-pilot-bearing-puller-attachment/230517_0_0 I don't know if you have enough clearance behind there or not but you can borrow one from autozone and give it a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 That is kind of the problem at the moment. The hole is under 12mm, and the pilot bearing tool is for 1/2 inch at the minimum. I went to 3 auto stores and finally found one that had it, but when I measured it I found it would not fit the hole, and I thought they would frown if I brought their tool back ground down. I ordered one so I can maybe grind down the jaws, but was hoping someone knew of a tool that got small enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, seattlejester said: Except the orange seal is now blown out so the ball bearings are exposed and the grease/bread is coming through. The grease approach only works if you get a good seal around a pilot bushing as with a SBC. On my SBC projects the grease technique worked on the pilot bushing well enough sometimes to move the bushing out enough to get a puller on it. Sometimes I had to chisel a groove in the bushing and then collapse it to get it out. None of this will work with a bearing. Try a different puller. Failing that, you may have to pull the flywheel and take it to a machine shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 If it was on the fly wheel I would just pop it off and press it out. Unfortunately this thing is in the crank, I really don't want to disassemble the motor. Some people have mentioned what you suggested as a method, just basically destroying the bearing with a chisel and scraping out the remnants, but I feel like that is an absolute last resort, I really don't want to be hammering the bearing in case it pushes it further in and then I have no room to try and get it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZHoob2004 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 What about welding a bolt to the bearing? You could weld a bolt/stud onto the center race and grab it with a slide hammer. Should give the same effect as a standard puller, but a little more destructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seattlejester Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Hmm paper may be big enough to not bass through the balls. That may be an option I was thinking trying to weld something onto it, but didn't want to plug up my only access hole so to speak as well as not wanting to put a lot of heat into it near the rear main seal which as with seemingly all toyota seals costs quite a bit and is the only recommended seal. So game plan as of now: Try the bearing puller and slide hammer if it fits Try paper Grind down bearing puller to fit and hope it doesn't break If it breaks, paper doesn't work, then weld a bolt with the same thread as the slide hammer and go to town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Try this blind hole bearing removal tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno750 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) News paper bro. Just soak it and stuff it, then to compress it use a socket and tap it down (socket needs to fit inside the pilot bearing). I used this method to remove a pilot bearing that rusted to the crank after sitting for only God knows how long (ma70 Supra block). Edited June 25, 2018 by Geno750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Geno750 said: News paper bro I just worry it will squish out of the bearing, I'll definitely add it to my repertoire though 6 hours ago, Miles said: blind hole bearing removal tool I think we have a winner! It seems to be half price on amazon, so I placed an order, should be here by Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno750 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 It can't squish out, the bearing assembly is too tight for the paper to get in there, give it a shot and post the pictures. It took me two sheets of news paper to get mine out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 I just spent money on two tools may have some staging of the bearing going on lol. I was surprised the bread was squishing out. Definitely preferable over grease though. Maybe newspaper, bread, grease in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Also just wanted to say, I really appreciate you guys. I asked on the specific make forum because I figured they might know off the bat, wasn't nearly the case. Maybe I'm one of the first ever to have blown out the seal making me seem like an insane person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, seattlejester said: Also just wanted to say, I really appreciate you guys. I asked on the specific make forum because I figured they might know off the bat, wasn't nearly the case. Maybe I'm one of the first ever to have blown out the seal making me seem like an insane person. TYpical car stuff. Post your solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuD 91gt Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Tap it, screw in bolt. Pull out. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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