Dan Juday Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 ... like the ones Mike Kelly used to sell. Anybody making/selling these currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Roman Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 arizona z car makes em, but i dont know if they are what your lookin for. http://www.arizonazcar.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Juday Posted November 27, 2004 Author Share Posted November 27, 2004 No. I don't care for the Arizona Z design or price. Mike cut the stock arms and added an adjustable section. That's what I'm looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zline Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 http://www.outlawbrakes.com ; ) to be exact, http://fonebooth.com/suspension.html. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synlubes Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Dan they are pretty easy to make. Ck out my "Z Pics" link and you can see some I made from Mikelly`s design. I made mine alittle different from Mikes version to suit my needs. Contact Mike, I`m sure he would give you details. Thanks Mike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Juday Posted November 27, 2004 Author Share Posted November 27, 2004 Zline, The suspension link is broken, so is the contact us link. I'm thinking SCCA Mike is out of the suspension business. Doug, Thanks, I've dropped a PM to Mikelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Zline' date='The suspension link is broken, so is the contact us link. I'm thinking SCCA Mike is out of the suspension business. [/quote'] The suspension link worked for me and the control arms are still listed so try it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Juday Posted November 27, 2004 Author Share Posted November 27, 2004 Huh, went back to his home page and clicked around a couple links back to the suspension page and then it worked. Eh, computers. Thanks Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleMX Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Those one's on Arizona's site look like they have no bushings anywhere. The would be kinda rough on the street I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I've made 2 differing sets using 3/4" sperical rod ends. It was fairly easy to do, and the second set was made in one weekend. I won't go into the methods I used on the first set, but instead describe the construction of the second set. Simply stated, the bushing end of the control arm was cut off, a 3/4" grade 8 bolt (about 4" long with the head cut off) was inserted into the control arm where the bushing area was cut off, welded in the correct position (spot and butt welded), and then the 3/4" rod end was screwed onto the threaded portion of the bolt sticking out of the modified control arm. Total cost was around $70 (good quality rod ends and bolts). Resulting harness: none. In all the parts I've replace on the front end in regards to suspension, the T/C bushing area introduced the most "harshness", followed by the lack of upper rubber on the struts (very minor amount). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z2NV Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Terry, Did you make adjustable TC (strut) rods, as well? I might have you confused with another member..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 For the comment about "Harsh solid mounts"... I drove for 6 years on a set of heim joints on the control arm design and had no harshness related issues. Simply put, you couldn't feel them on the control arm to crossmember mount. As for the Solid mount on the TC Rod, It would add a little at the TC box, but I'd not think a lot since you still use a TC bushing. That said, I'll be happy to make Dan a set of non-adjustable units... However, Dave's design from Arizona Zcar is the poop, PERIOD. They are a freakin' work of art... The rears I've got inhouse right now are AWESOME and the fronts are too! Dan, I responded to your PM... Mike 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Did you make adjustable TC (strut) rods, as well? Nope, must have been someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Juday Posted November 27, 2004 Author Share Posted November 27, 2004 Thanks guys, You have inspired me make my own. I have a question about the hiem joint though. I have a friend here in town that has a couple rod ends of the right size but I don't know if they are the right type. Looking at the McMaster-Carr site there are lots of different types with a variaty of materials for the race, nylon, urathane, brass. What do I need guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zline Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Thanks guys' date='You have inspired me make my own. I have a question about the hiem joint though. I have a friend here in town that has a couple rod ends of the right size but I don't know if they are the right type. Looking at the McMaster-Carr site there are lots of different types with a variaty of materials for the race, nylon, urathane, brass. What do I need guys?[/quote'] Dan you can pick this up from my buddy Alex and you're all set to go! http://www.battleversion.com/240WeldKit.htm all you gotta do is cut and weld it on and youre done! yeah it is $185 but it includes everything you need and it also has plate to box your control arms etc., etc., You could always just get the rod end too if you fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 The best experience I've had is with a high strength aluminum using the poly (teflon, nylon,?) liner. It remained tight for years. The brass liner type eventually loosened up some after some use. The poly liner helps keep dirt out better than the metal-to-metal joints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Roman Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Thanks guys' date='You have inspired me make my own. I have a question about the hiem joint though. I have a friend here in town that has a couple rod ends of the right size but I don't know if they are the right type. Looking at the McMaster-Carr site there are lots of different types with a variaty of materials for the race, nylon, urathane, brass. What do I need guys?[/quote'] Dan you can pick this up from my buddy Alex and you're all set to go! http://www.battleversion.com/240WeldKit.htm all you gotta do is cut and weld it on and youre done! yeah it is $185 but it includes everything you need and it also has plate to box your control arms etc., etc., You could always just get the rod end too if you fancy. Dude Alex Pfieffer(sp) is your buddy ??? *bows* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. G. Olphart Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 My car was wrecked at one time or another, so camber adjustment capability was pretty much mandatory. I found a 1975? Mercedes sedan using adjusting cams on the same sized pivot bolt as the Z. The cam bolts are longer, so I put 1/4" plates on each side of the front cross member; a person could also buy a die and lengthen the thread (and the indexing groove) on the Mercedes bolts to avoid the added weight and hassle. Please make sure that the bolt would retain sufficient strength after threading; I believe cut threads are weaker than rolled threads. If anyone is interested in trying the cam & plates, I can post pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z2NV Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Definitely worthy of some pics! Please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. G. Olphart Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 OK, fabrication pictures are in my gallery. They were entered in order, so naturally they display backwards. Someone had mentioned using similar slots and the stock Z bolts without trouble; I was a little leery & came up with this. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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