rudypoochris Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Okay, I have been looking at 225/50/R15 tires to mount on rewinds for my 240z and was wondering if anyone had experiences with the Falken Ziex ZE-512, Kumho Ecsta 711, or BFG Gfroce Sport? The sport is the most expensive of the 3 ($78) and from the reviews it seems to be the best. But how do the Kumho's at $53 a wheel and the Ziex at $63 a wheel match up? If i knew for certain that I was keeping this set of wheels for a while, then I would be more inclined to go with the Sports, but I am basically keeping these wheels until the Rota Grids become available which could be tommorow, next month, next year, or never. So here are some of the tires general specs: BFG GForce Sport - 340 AA A - 23 Lbs - VR Speed Rating Kumho Ecsta 711 - 320 AA A - 22 Lbs - HR Speed Rating Falken Ziex ZE-512 - 360 AA A - VR Speed Rating Total prices for four tires works out to be: BFG GForce Sport - $312 Kumho Ecsta 711 - $212 Falken Ziex ZE-512 - $252 So in your opinions in the extra $25 or $15 per tire for the g-Sports justified? Or are the others just as good? And if they are not as good, are they still the better choice because alot of money is saved? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 711 = crappy tire for autox (friend has it on his fd, says they break loose all the time) 512 = crappy tire for autox (had these in 205/60/14 on the neon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Was afraid of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 In the order of bad to good. Ecsta, Ziex, G-force. I have run all three on different cars. The ecsta are good cheap performance tire but the least sticky. Ziex are good but not worth the money over the ecsta. The g-force sports are very sticky and worth the price. I am currently running these on the z and they hook well and stick great. I would recommend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003z Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I've also had the ziex and the ecstas. ziex on a lowered blazer and ecstas on the 3 series bmw. for street driving, they are all ok, but for any track or autocross work, you don't want either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
materchan Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 the first tires i've ever bought were gforce sports and i think i made a damn good choice. althought i havnt raced with them yet, but i've been on some wicked roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Just to mix things up.... How about the Yokohama AVS ES100, somehow i missed this one. $84 Each - $336 total. 280 AA A - VR Speed Rating - 22lb tire It seems to have some outstanding results for traction and cornering (on tire rack) but there are alot of negative reviews too citing poor noise level and quick wear with little stick. I believe someone on the forum tried these and said they sucked. Are these better the the g-Sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moridin Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 IMO...these are what I would think for a good street/autox tire for the price Kumho MX Falken Azenis RT215 or RT615 Avon Tech M500 Yokohama Advan Neova Sumitomo HTR ZII I have experience with the both the Kumho MX's and Falken Azenis RT215s. The MX's are on my mom's 500RWHP Cobra. It hooks up well considering and handles well at the limit. The tires let you know when they're read to let go too. The Azenis are on my brother's "g-pull" Honda Civic. They just keep grabbing and are also designed with a bit of negative camber in mind. There is much more meat on the inner part of the tire. My friend also has these on his 3600lb 740 hybrid turbo Volvo. He has over 30,000 miles on them and still going strong. Lasted much longer than the Nitto NT555s and Pirelli P Zeros that he had previously. I've heard that the AVS Yoks just don't compare to the newer tires. They tested them last year in Eurotuner with the same car and they came in dead last. I think they just did a new tire test in the current issue if you want to check that out. May help your decision. I'm sure there are more, but I can remember any off the top of my head. There are also the "competition" tires too. Nitto NT01, Kumho V700 and V710, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 IMO...these are what I would think for a good street/autox tire for the price Kumho MX Falken Azenis RT215 or RT615 Avon Tech M500 Yokohama Advan Neova Sumitomo HTR ZII I have experience with the both the Kumho MX's and Falken Azenis RT215s. The MX's are on my mom's 500RWHP Cobra. It hooks up well considering and handles well at the limit. The tires let you know when they're read to let go too. The Azenis are on my brother's "g-pull" Honda Civic. They just keep grabbing and are also designed with a bit of negative camber in mind. There is much more meat on the inner part of the tire. My friend also has these on his 3600lb 740 hybrid turbo Volvo. He has over 30' date='000 miles on them and still going strong. Lasted much longer than the Nitto NT555s and Pirelli P Zeros that he had previously. I've heard that the AVS Yoks just don't compare to the newer tires. They tested them last year in Eurotuner with the same car and they came in dead last. I think they just did a new tire test in the current issue if you want to check that out. May help your decision. I'm sure there are more, but I can remember any off the top of my head. There are also the "competition" tires too. Nitto NT01, Kumho V700 and V710, etc...[/quote'] Unfortunately all of those tires are alot more expensive then what I have or aren't available in 225/50/15. I will check out falken though (they aren't on tirerack). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I will always vote for the Falkens for a very good all purpose tire. I run them almost exclusively on every car I own, including my (ex) LT1 240Z: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Tim, What a great looking car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 The Azenis are a great tire and I would buy those over the others but... they do not make them that large in 15's. The es100 are better than the ecsta, same as ziex, and not as good as g-force sports. Besides the azenis I have not found any tire that can compare to the g-force for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zfan Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Kuhmo's I purchased for my sons Honda, decent tire but thats on a Honda. I run the BFG's KD Sports and for the bucks I really like them better than any Kuhmo I have run. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Tim Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I have gForce Sports on the back of the Cobra and I love them. I had 711s on my CRX and they were a decent tire for the price but not too good when I autocrossed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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