scottc Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 So i measured up the VQ35 and the 240Z today and found the following: - will fit between the frame rails - will have to clearence the front cross member to clear the oil pan, although the engine shouldn't interfere with the steering rack - will have to move the hood latch and clearence the inner skelton of the hood to clear the intake manifold. - At ride height (with tokico springs installed), the lowest part of the VQ35 (oil pan) will have 3" of clearence to the ground, but will be almost centered near the front wheels, the rest of the engine will have 4-5" of clearence to the ground (for reference, my front frame rails under the floor pans are about 4.75-5" off the ground). - shifter on the vq engine will probably have to be shortened up a couple of inches to fit in the stock 240Z shifter location. Do you think 3" of clearence between the pan and the ground will be too little? Does anyone have any pictures of this engine in the 240Z engine bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 You really shouldn't have the pan below the engine x-member. You want something substantial to hit the ground before your sump gets ripped off and your engine dies a very quick death. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rp975 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi, If you look up my photo gallery you will see some pics of my VQ30det install, I would imagine that the VQ35 is similar? There has been someone with pictures in these forums that has installed a VQ35 in an S30 but they seem to have the motor a fair way forward. I hope that this is of some help for you. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruez Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Can you post some overall height, width and depth measurements of the VQ35?? I've got one in the Pathfinder but there is so much crap in there to get and accurate measurement.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260chiles Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 There is a guy in the L.A. area who has already done this swap. He was at the West Coast nationals and I think he even won some trophies for it last year. I see him around every now and then. Next time I see him at a local gathering i'll take some pics of his car and post'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 You really shouldn't have the pan below the engine x-member. You want something substantial to hit the ground before your sump gets ripped off and your engine dies a very quick death. Dave I was thinking about this - but since it will be right behind the front x-member - i could make an addon to the x-member as protection for the oil pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hi' date='If you look up my photo gallery you will see some pics of my VQ30det install, I would imagine that the VQ35 is similar? There has been someone with pictures in these forums that has installed a VQ35 in an S30 but they seem to have the motor a fair way forward. I hope that this is of some help for you. Rob[/quote'] Rob - thanks for the info - the VQ35 seems to be a little taller due to the intake manifold on top, and the throttle inlet close to the firewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Can you post some overall height, width and depth measurements of the VQ35?? I've got one in the Pathfinder but there is so much crap in there to get and accurate measurement.. Sure thing - what measurements would you like to know? The ones i can remember are (With the motor sitting on a flat concrete floor) - 29" from the floor to the top most point on the rear of the intake manifold (near the throttle inlet) - 26.5" from the floor to the top of the front of the intake manifold (closest to the timing chain) - 35" from the back of the block to the center of the stock trans shifter location (this could be shortened by modifying the shift linkage a couple of inches). - about 24" wide (+/- 1" since i was just eyeballing this measurement) without catayltic converters bolted up. Other things to know is that the oil pan sits towards the front of the engine, and not much deeper than the rest of the block/bellhousing (about 2" deeper). Also - the AC pump is run a seperate belt. The serpentine belt runs the other accessories (PS, Alternator, waterpump). The power steering pump could easily be removed and just use a shorter belt in a non-PS car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 There is a guy in the L.A. area who has already done this swap. He was at the West Coast nationals and I think he even won some trophies for it last year. I see him around every now and then. Next time I see him at a local gathering i'll take some pics of his car and post'em. I think i know the car you are referring to (silver 240 with the 350Z swap). I'd be interested to know why he mounted the motor far forward, and how much modification was needed for the front cross member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Would you be able to switch to a dry slump on this motor? Then you could either lower the motor some and still have enough clearance or leave it and have alot of clearance. not sure how easy or hard it would be to do this but just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 I thought about that - but it seems that the oil pan is only about 1-2" deeper than the lowered casting of the engine - so you really wouldn't save much by going dry sump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 You really shouldn't have the pan below the engine x-member. You want something substantial to hit the ground before your sump gets ripped off and your engine dies a very quick death. Dave funny you mention, there was a dood at one of our universities here in toronto that was scoping out some chick, "ridin' like a g", as he hopped one of the islands in the parking lot and ripped his pan off. LOL no joke. i have to try and find the pic. EDIT: In his brand new 2005 Infiniti G35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Not a VQ, but my oil pan hangs below my crossmember. I didn't want to do it that way but that's how it had to be. It is between the tires so speed bumps aren't a problem. I just can't go offroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I just can't go offroad. how dare you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_V Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 You can swap in the VQ30 intake manifolds and gain some clearance, and mount the engien a little higher no problem. ~Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 Except, the VQ30 manifold places the throttle body facing the transmission. If used in a RWD car that would make the TB face the firewall. Hmmmm, would probably need too much reworking of the manifold to make it useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_V Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 check out engineswaptech.com/forums/thread/240.aspx He ended up making his own IM, its really not too hard. You can also cut off the plenum and make your own. theres a lot of options, the only downside to the 350z plenum is the front 2 cyls not getting egnough air and the height of the back. You can fix the cyl's problem with a spacer but that makes the height worse. Hence a custom setup. GL ~Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaniel Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Except, the VQ30 manifold places the throttle body facing the transmission. If used in a RWD car that would make the TB face the firewall. Hmmmm, would probably need too much reworking of the manifold to make it useful. It does require reworking but is possible Here's a link showing my vq30 and 350z trans into an rx-7 http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=22517 Also more specifics on what I did to modify the intake http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=22010 It's been over two years and it is still on the car and no problems. Thaniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peej410 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 http://www.engineswaptech.com/forums/1/1257/ShowThread.aspx i was just going to post a link to this in a new thread but here you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdizzy204 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 funny you mention, there was a dood at one of our universities here in toronto that was scoping out some chick, "ridin' like a g", as he hopped one of the islands in the parking lot and ripped his pan off. LOL no joke. i have to try and find the pic. EDIT: In his brand new 2005 Infiniti G35. i find that hard to believe since the oil pan is covered by a underbody protector(at least on my 05 g35) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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