Russ Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 Hey all, Had been planning a Corvette lump, Borg Warner T56 bla bla conversion for my 240 but while at work I thought why not do a Skyline conversion. I know sod all so please excuse my ignorance but how feasible and how good would a older skyline awd/4wd running gear conversion, prolly skyline box and the R34 GTR lump be? I guess someone has probably done it. I'm a bit worried about the front wheel drive bit, i.e. I expect driveshafts would have to be shortened and what angle would they be at?? Maybe too steep. Cheers Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 It would be A LOT of work. I do remember this topic coming up before and one person said they were going to do it. Maybe do a search threw some of the forums here to find the old threads. Good luck and be sure to keep us posted if you decide to do this. Also, remember the old mythical warning, "Be wary entering yon labyrinth - for here be Dragons!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Have heard of someone using the entire Skline floorpan with running gear grafted onto a non 4WD Nissan. An enormous amount of work and cost, obviously. I'd guess that your starting point for such a job would be to compare the track and wheelbase of a Skyline with the recipient car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 it can be done .... you might as well go get your engineering masters cause your gonna need it ;>. there was a pic of a drag 240z awd with like 800+ HP floating around maybe someone could bring it back. to use the front drive train the motor gets mounted so far forward the radiator has to be mounted on the fwd side of the core support. and if an intercooler is used teh front bumper cannot be used ;> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 26, 2002 Author Share Posted November 26, 2002 That far forward! Eeek Ok for a start I don't want it too far forwards, it's gotta go round corners too Trouble is I have no Skyline to go measure. Theres no way I could reverse mount the engine or something to bring the front drive further back? Argh gearboxes. Hmmm Maybe I should look to a different car for the AWD, Audi TT anyone? Lots to consider, btw the Z I will start from will be bare shell so any amount of work is no trouble and I'm not in a hurry so. Lets talk it out and throw ideas about anyway just for the sake of it, tis an interesting thing isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inZane 240 Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Anyone have a nippon/english dictionary? I see 4WD is a universal word widely understood.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 26, 2002 Author Share Posted November 26, 2002 I see what you mean by that intercooler! I'm looking to keep the Z fairly standard looking so it'll need a front bumper (although it can be modified). Looks like it may not be entirely possible... Cool article tho thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimi Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Has anyone found more information about this Skyline/Z -car? I have tried several times to find but have not found anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 SSS Automotive in i think sydney or melbourne, have made one they are 75% complete and are selling it for $20,000 AUS.... they might be goosd foir some info! Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalium99 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I heard (any maybe 260Det/Richard may know about this) that one of the members of the Qld Z car club was selling an AWD Zed project which he had started. Maybe he realised it was too much work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 28, 2002 Author Share Posted November 28, 2002 All I have managed to dig up so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_H Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 I was the one looking seriously into transplanting the AWD setup from a R-33 skyline. Don't even bother. First, it is possible to physically transfer the AWD setup and graft the suspension. A compentent fabrication shop can make that happen. However, the Skyline has what is called the ATTESSA system to control the clutches to send power to the front wheels,(it does not work like a typical 4wd setup, for the front recieves no power until the rears start slipping, then the ATTESSA system starts to engage the clutches,(3 or 4), to start sending power to the front wheels, up to an even 50-50 split). There are several ATTESSA sensors throughout the Skyline GT-R, and it also takes info from the stock computer. So it is not an easy fix, and the sensors are located in various parts of the car, and are calibrated for that location,(refering to G-sensors, etc..). Plus the wheel sensors. The next stop in the job is that the manuals are only written in Japanese. So you will have a heck of a time deciphering the electrical schematics to determine which wire goes where, assuming you could get all the sensors mounted properly. Now there is a second options, but it is very expensive, and is only for drag racing. HKS or one of the Japanese companies sells a kit that allows you to pump a lever,(like a hand brake), to manually engage the clutches. That is what the 240 in the magazine article has. Notice the big silver handle? You also need to eliminate the 4 wheel steering, or HICAS in the rear,(fairly straight forward). Bottom line? If you are going to transplant the RB26dett, go with the RB25 RWD transmission and don't worry about AWD. There is a very good reason there are only 2 or 3 of them in the world... -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 28, 2002 Author Share Posted November 28, 2002 Thanks for your knowledge, much appreciated. Maybe more sense to spend the time/money on a rwd solution and more engine work and probably have a quicker car to boot. It still needs to go around corners tho. Thanks very much mate, mad how hi tech these skylines are Hmm not one to shy away from a challenge tho Erm hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 been around 4wd/awd all my life in the Pacific Northwest and hate em Always equated Jeeps as lowly utility work vehicles. Designed to take you places to tear up everything and get you into trouble. which gets $ expensive. After the first snow, going into town I see the majority of vehicles in the ditch are 4wd becuz the owners think they do not slide in the snow at speed. With 4 wheels spinning.. They slide twice as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZROSSA Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 What was that thing about mad dogs and english men.... Anyway, If you must have 4 whell drive then what about the set up from the Gts-4 skylines. These were the next level down from the gtr's. They can come in 4 wheel drive as well with the rb20 or the rb25 and have a much more simple 4 wheel drive system. You could just use the drive train and put in the rb26. I would keep the rb25 myself. Single turbo would be easyier to work with etc. Cheers Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 28, 2002 Author Share Posted November 28, 2002 I just want a Z that looks almost stock but goes like **** off a stick and is as good on a trackday as it is up the strip. Jack of all trades you may say. I was gonna go 350cu SBC and such but then I thought why not try to keep it Jap Nissan/Datsun and I've always wanted dump valves so... Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Going the hi-po 2WD route will keep you busy and broke enough as it is. Big brakes, stiffen up the body, R200 LSD, suspension mods....... Power? How much do you want to spend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 You absolutely right... the awd would be a wicked project but I simply wouldn't have the time/patience really. Patience I have plenty of but I don't want it to take 20yrs to get it rolling and by which time no matter how good my awd Z is a modern diddy men car would out perform it Still would be interesting to see how other people have done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalium99 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Originally posted by Simon:SSS Automotive in i think sydney or melbourne, have made one they are 75% complete and are selling it for $20,000 AUS.... they might be goosd foir some info! Simon Thats a bloody good price if the body is in anyway good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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