cockerstar Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Hey guys, When I went out to my project car about a week ago I started her up, pushed in the clutch, and when I went to put her into gear I got a surprise. It just grided... So I pulled my foot off the pedal and to my surprise it stayed on the floor! The car had been sitting in the garage for about a month without being started in winter weather (down to about 10-15 degrees outside) and hasn't been driven since thanksgiving day. What could be wrong besides a shot slave cylinder? Hopefully it just requires a quick bleed, but I'm kind of skeptical because it ran fine when I parked it a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorgee Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Definitely check for leaks. I was helping my buddy with his car and his clutch peddle was really soft. turned out there was a leak in one of the lines. You could see bubbles coming out from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Yeah, what puzzles me is that it ran just fine when I parked it and there isn't anything on the ground under the car to indicate a leak! Could the cold weather have done something to gum up the fluid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorgee Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Best bet would be to double check all the connections. Clutch slave to the pedal, check the lines to the clutch slave. Might even have to check inside the transmission to make sure the fork and bearing are o.k. as well. Not much can go wrong with the clutch. Just need to study it a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Slave cylinders are notorious for drawing moisture and going bad. My guess is that's what's wrong. Try bleeding it. If that solves it, replace the slave cylinder, and when the cylinder is disconnected from the bottom of the hydraulic line, run some denatured alcohol through the circuit by pouring it through the reservoir and letting it leak out. Then install the slave cylinder and refill the clutch circuit with DOT 5 (silicone) brake fluid. The DOT 5 fluid won't draw moisture that corrodes the slave cylinder. This greatly extends the service life of the slave cylinder. (BTDT) I used to go through a slave cylinder every 4-5 years in my 280ZX when living in Texas humidity. I came up with the DOT 5 idea and haven't had to change the slave cylinder again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Sometimes my 83 will do that after sitting. I just pump it up and down with my hand at starts to work fine as long as the car dose not sit too long. So far I just call it character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 You'll call it something else when the clutch pedal sticks to the floor in the middle of heavy traffic and you can't get it to come up and engage the clutch. Been there, wish I had'na done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 So, if I bleed it and it fixes things I should actually go through and replace it? I have a slave out of a 240 to toss in if mine is bad, but I'm not sure how many miles are on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Np pilgrim, it has happened twice over 3years to me. Never has it happened outside of standing. This was my point, now knowing it happened out of the blue with you I will reconsider looking into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 You know, this might explain why there was a bottle of brake fluid sitting in the engine bay behind a few relays when I bought the car... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 Don't worry, I only paid $235 before I drove the car 35 miles home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 You know, this might explain why there was a bottle of brake fluid sitting in the engine bay behind a few relays when I bought the car... HAHAHA Yea, I learned this myself. When a car comes with parts and/or some random fluids you should look into WHY that might be... There's most likely a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 I had asked about it but the guy got the car as a payment of debt. Some guy owed him some cash, but he was lacking funds so he paid him with the car. I bought the car for cheap. Everyone's happy Here's some pictures of you guys care. It was in pretty dismal condition the night that I got her, but it looks a lot worse that I;m thinking it is. It would be an absolute perfect driveling donor if I needed one! Notice the red cap on the brake fluid in the last pic? Guess it was behind some reservoirs, not relays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.svoboda Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 not a good idea to buy a car that comes in multi colors been made of parts. but the price was right. dump the black fluid in the clutch hydraulic system and replace master and slave. they run like 30 35 each at schucks. course if you drive across the river you can save the tax. of course this is assuming that the pressure plate is actually working and not rusted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Yep that baby needs a little TLC. Red and blue, abit patriotic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 Well, I'm about to see if I can fix things here. I'll let you know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 The slave only has one seal. If it leaks enough to loose pressure you'll see it on the ground. Sounds more like a clutch master.I know Autozone sells slave seal kits. I just got one, it was around $8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 ahhhh Lovely... I had to pick up a slave and not the master, huh? Well, if a some DOT5 and a bleed doesn't fix things it looks like I'll pick up a new master and just replace the both of them. My buddy is on the way to do some pedal pumping for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Bled out the lines and now everything is running great as far as the clutch goes At first it was just a solid jet of air! Now I think I'm being killed by the notorious electrical problems s130's are known for. The car starts right up on a jump, but after about a second and a half after the cables are removed she dies. With a fresh battery out of my accord she runs for about ~7 minutes. Consistent with a shot alternator? Also, my right turn signal is always on now :S I'm thinking that it is a side effect from low voltage making it to the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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