J240ZTurbo Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Does anyone know any tricks to install these after bushings are in, now my arms wont fit? Thanks, Juan. Edited March 21, 2011 by J240ZTurbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam07 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) I used OEM replacement bushings from MSA and they barely stick out past the control arm. Are you sure you are using the correct bushings? I don't think you are using spindle pin bushings. http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/SSSC01C02/23-4313 here is the pic directly from MSA. Edited March 22, 2011 by padam07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J240ZTurbo Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Iam using energy bushings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmanout84 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 You need to press in those bushing as TIGHT as possible. I used a vice. If I remember correctly though, I might have shaved a tiny tiny amount with sandpaper off the urethane part. It should still fit tightly though, don't overdo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Donovan_ Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Is that the bushings kit from ebay? I am looking at this item and wondering if it is worth it. Looks like the kit you have. If it is let me know how it is. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360196090666&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1740wt_938 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverdone Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 You could spread them apart using a chunk of allthread and two nuts. ==|}==={|=== Place the nuts in the middle of the arms and then turn them to spread them apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 We had the same problem with ours. We managed to shoehorn them in with a lever. Believe it or not, the bushings will compress enough to go on. It take some force though. We had the arms and the struts in the car so they were not moving around too much. Get one end in and start the spindle into the strut. Next, use a lever to guide the other end in and compress the bushings. I don't remember what we used. Anything long and thin should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgsheen Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Just looked at the pic again... Wow, ours were tight, but didn't "overlap" THAT much! My Son and I found success on our Z's by pressing in the inner bushings first - pushing them in real good - getting them seated tight as possible in the control arm. Then inserting the outer bushing and inner cylinder (in either order, whichever worked better - import part seemed to be getting the inner bushings in first and tight...) We did his Urethane bushings a couple of weeks ago. One side required a little "shoehorn" - we used a piece of sheetmetal. The other side went right up - snug, but we did it by hand... Edited March 22, 2011 by cgsheen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrel Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Take the bushings out, then use the scissors jack to spread them apart about 1/8" or so. They will spring back but not enough that you can't put it back together without too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieeats Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I had to grind mine down a bit and haven't had any problem as of yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J240ZTurbo Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 put one side in last knight, going for the next side this weekend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverdone Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 What method did you use to get it in? Clever or brute force? Or a combination of the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indri Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I just installed some the other day. Same brand and everything. They are a PITA. I used a plastic puddy knife and a rubber mallet to shoe horn them in. (I used plastic and rubber so I wouldn't mess up my powder coating.) Good luck.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Take a grinder or file and chamfer the edges of the strut. That'll help the strut ramp in and spread the bushing apart. It also helps to prevent the ID of the bushings from getting caught on the edges of the strut and folding over (something you wouldn't know until you took everything apart again). Nigel '73 240ZT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I would sand the bushings until the sleeve is JUST longer than the bushing. This will take some of the stiction out of the suspension. If that isn't enough to fit them in, then I do the two nuts and allthread as posted above.Just need to tweak the arm enough to slide the strut in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Take a grinder or file and chamfer the edges of the strut. That'll help the strut ramp in and spread the bushing apart. It also helps to prevent the ID of the bushings from getting caught on the edges of the strut and folding over (something you wouldn't know until you took everything apart again). Nigel '73 240ZT You will know if it is a problem if the spindle won't go in do to damage. Fortunately, by the time the bushing is near the strut it is better aligned and effectively a bit shorter so it may not have the interference it appears to at first. In my case I got the spindle in ok but have not had it apart since, so I cannot say it is or is not damaged. for what its worth, the car drive well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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