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Posting pictures and names/ addresses isn't the answer guys... Hell I personally invite all of you guys to my HOME a couple of times per year, and would pretty much convey my same exact thoughts on these off topic subjects, although in a more thoughtful way (Face to face beats text any day of the week) at any of the get-togethers we have... Just ask those (Both democrat and republican) who have attended my shindigs.

 

NO, I've always said and will always hold fast to the fact that who you are on a website is who you damned well should be in public, because people are drawing conclusions on each of us, based on what we type. It's all we have to go on. If you say "I believe ABCDEFG" in text, and then back pedal in public and say "I was just kiddin'" That'll speak volumes about who you really are in my book.

 

As someone mentioned to me offline, It's ok to disagree on a topic and argue your point in a non-offense, and non-emotional way. In the recent past I've found I can't do that, because of my work. And I'm ok with that, because now I know I need to work on that area of my life.

 

Lets get back to cars.

Mike

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Aw crap, you mean I could have been posting P&R here instead of getting all of my P&R posts delteted at Zcar.com after 12 hours!! LOL

 

Oh well!!

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I've gained insight and admiration for the members on the site that have submitted thought provoking commentary to the subject matter. At the same time, I've had my blood pressure rise to above safe conditions reading some of these same comments as well. DR_HUNT put it perfectly. I value my personal friendships (the HybridZ group is included in this category) too highly to allow myself to become embroiled in these strings and could live very well (and long) without seeing a single thread about this subject matter ever again. Every form of media is inundated with viewpoints that cover the entire spectrum of though on these two subjects, and I feel the HybridZ site is not the location to rehash what I heard 10 minutes ago on the television. Once again, the administrators of this forum are demonstrating their great reputation for properly managing this site.

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I will miss the P&R topics and agree with those who also want to keep them. This is the only site where I will read and/or participate in them because of the general high quality of the discussion. There have been a few where things went south and got ugly, but they were few and far between and not really all that ugly, at least as far as I can remember (it sucks to get old).

I think the discussions add to the general feeling that we are family and can talk about things and really get to know each other beyond just our common interest in "fast Datsuns". I will miss them.

 

Wheelman

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english and creative writing wasnt my best subject in school .so if i coundnt post an intelligent sounding opinion on a post i just didnt post. i dont mind reading about somebody else's point of view as long as they can express themselves with out offending other members.that is the hard part.so we are avoiding political/religious subjects altogether.my opinion is this might make the site a little too well managed.but this is only my opinion.if you see something i misspelled i will just blame it on my poor typing skills.this is the best single make car enthusiast site on the net.

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I feel that I am in the same boat as Randy. Spelling and typing are not my thing so I dont get involved becuase I think and speak at a certain level and type like a 6 year old. I dont think I am alone here and this could very well be the trouble with internet discussions. It is very difficult to get your point across on the net with out upsetting someone. They can not see the grin on your face, the inflection in your voice, the way you look or how you are trying to express yourself. This tend's to lead to a lot of unneeded agro.

This is the only place I come to. If you want to talk politicaly, Fine. Religon I could do with out. Just keep the above in mind. Oh, and dont forget, Its a world wide web.:wink:

 

Cheers, Douglas

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I'll miss the P+R discussions. I really enjoyed hearing what other people think on these subjects. If you speak your heart you will offend someone. I think most can handle that without taking it personally. HybridZ is the only forum I post in due to the high quality of the admin's and members. Tech info, good conversation, humor, ideas and interesting subjects. Please don't change things too much.

 

Chris

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I have to bring this up. What about discussions about new or chaning automotive legislations? Those discussions are political too, and could get quite heated.

 

Also, what if someone wants to discuss the "Lord of Lords" 240 dragster that was at SEZ II? How long before someone gets offended by that and it gets banned?

 

It is a slippery slope.

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I have to bring this up. What about discussions about new or chaning automotive legislations? Those discussions are political too, and could get quite heated.

 

IMHO, Discussions of topics that have a direct affect on our hobby are fine until the thread gets heated.

 

Also, what if someone wants to discuss the "Lord of Lords" 240 dragster that was at SEZ II? How long before someone gets offended by that and it gets banned?

 

IMHO, We don't necessarily ban a topic or thread just because someone is offended. If the discussion of the Lord of Lord's 240 was technical in nature it would continue just fine. Just because someone is offended by the name of the car doesn't mean a technical discussion gets banned.

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I don't think posts should be deleted because someone might find them offensive. That is a slippery slope we need to avoid. Somewhere, there is someone who might find almost any post offensive- and to try to humor them in the interest of being PC is a waste of time. If you're that thin skinned you need to get a life. There's probably no doubt I have offended a few stupid newbies/nonsearchers with my posts, but they just need to follow the rules of the site and we'll get along fine. We may not always agree, but we'll get along.

 

I'm in favor of banning P&R. Most people have their minds firmly made up on these subjects, and are not going to change them. It usually becomes an argument for the sake of arguing, and gets heated and personal, which is a bad thing. I have good friends I don't agree with on P&R, but we know where we stand, don't stir things to see if it will stink, and we remain close friends. We are primarily here to discuss Z's plus the occasional interesting/funny occurance, and that should be the main focus of the site.

 

John

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I personally think this was long overdue. While I greatly enjoy political debates' date=' I also think that certain things have there own place. The site is called HybridZ, which for me is a place to unwind and discuss tech or fun issues related to our common hobby and escape from the more stressful aspects of life (virtual sanctuary). There are other sites for political debates and there are much better political news sources than HybridZ.

I think we should stick to what we do best on this site. I vote to keep the “realities†of everyone’s political and religious perspectives/biases separate from this nice technically oriented and fun Z site.[/quote']

 

I agree completly... this site is for technical knowledge

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Guest Zendo

Can somebody provide me a copy with the contents of such "heated" discussions that all of you guys are talking about? ...well...if it is possible.

Are we experiencing some kind of self-repressive control because all of those kids with body of men took a crap in the 'middle' of the room?

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What if we declare HybridZ a religion? Can we get tax breaks?

 

Does that make SuperDan the pope(or head shaman)? JohnC' date=' BlueOvalZ, Mikelly, etc... can be bishops.

 

What do you think?

 

Donations are being accepted to my Temple of Z:)[/quote']

Do we have to drink any special punch? :mrgreen:

 

!M!

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Do we have to drink any special punch? :mrgreen:

 

!M!

well Mat... from the storys i hear about your partys i think you can supply the "drinks"

 

mike

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I think we should be able to talk about any issue here. just make a offtopic fourm or something if people dont wanna read it they dont have too. I like talking about all sorts of things expecially politcs.. just for a few laughs i found this pic on the net a few ago and had myself a nice laugh over it. and yes N.O. I am sorry for what happened but this is still kinda funny pic.

 

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