madkaw

These are pullers and I will have them set up to come on with AC . Megasquirt 3X just came out with firmware to control with PW . I think the only option is fans at full speed with AC . I have a buddy that said he can make a controller that will do a better job . I have no idea what CFM these fans are except they are 300 watts and they are SPAL fans OEM

While waiting for my stacks to get printed I jumped on this other project . I ordered AC but my cooling system wasn’t up for the task. My 15” Mishimoto with no should struggles to keep up in traffic . Watched a couple of YouTube videos and decided to step up to some brushless fans from a Chevy Volt . I went with them because they look like they would fit the radiator . It’s TIGHT -even after carving on it for a day . It’s been a learning curve on how I was going to power and control them . Hope this works !

Well while the z was in the back garage I pulled the exhaust off . I had tried something that I won’t do again but I used a square port gasket ( Nissan ) on my mn47 head with my square port header . I was getting some small leaks when I pressurized the exhaust during leak checks . I went back with the gasket to match the head which worked fine before . Also stared at the ITBS for a long time trying to figure out why #3 was sucking more air . As you can see in the pics the linkage was digging into the side of the ITB . Shining a light into the ports before hand did seem to show 3 open a hair more . It was such a small difference I can’t swear I did anything , but I’m betting it’s enough . I ended up just filing the tab on the linkage down . I also figured a way to run my coolant bypass on #6 . I’ll run it under my ITBS on top of the heat shield . Might also try again to run air for a remote IAC . It’s actually getting too busy under the ITBS . Also on the to do list is to find some different cooling fans . I want to run brushless for the versatility and power since I want to install AC . AC is ordered from AC solutions but that’s a month out at least . Cold air box got glued tonight . 75mm Stacks are getting printed out and I’m getting close to finalizing this long project !

Well much rain is forecasted so I’m taking her off the road to attend to issues as in exhaust leak somewhere and # 3 port pulling more air than the others . Of course the only way to see the butterfly in the ITB is to remove it . I think the exhaust leak is at the header flange so that’s a remove project - ugh . I also think I might have pulled off my air box scheme . Taking me a while to get better at forming the plexiglass but the new buck is spot on for the most part . Hopefully I get all these issues resolved during the downtime . The engine is really running good but I’m hoping longer stacks will bring me into the sweet spot . A friend is printing out the 75mm stacks and I’ll probably also do a set of 90’mm . I think I have plenty of room to fit 90’s without impeding flow around them .

Okay so the two tables for VE has given my some more fidelity with the tune . Can’t seem to pull off the two timing tables with AlphaN. Cant figure a way to include or delete a MAP sensor that doesn’t screw with the tune badly. I think with MS you have to use ITB mode which I thought took more expertise and data logs than I have . Runs good with SD running the timing , but I’d like more refinement. Still working on my air box and a buddy is printing me Velocity stacks to try . Also trying to put AC in the car ! I think the IAC idea might be scrapped for timing correction IAC .

I would be completely satisfied with an NA with those CFM numbers !!

Latest updates are more tuning . I’ve now figured out have to get 2 x16 tables for VE and timing . I’ve also converted AFR so now I’m total Alpha male - lol. I haven’t driven since converting timing to Alpha N so that will take some time and knock ears . Weather has been so hot I haven’t driven the car in days . I also still have an issue with one bank O2 sensor . I must have a small leak somewhere that hard to find - maybe underside the header flange . I’ll have to try a smoke test to try and find it . Spark plugs all looked the same though my reading is wacky on 4-6 cylinders . So far mpg has been decent though that isn’t much of a consideration right now .

The thing runs so good I can’t believe they aren’t very closely synced . First time doing ITBS so don’t know what to expect . I think they have been very good . Alpha N is a bit of a learning curve . I think I figured out I how to get 32 table for VE - but it runs well with 16 . I have a good MAP signal and I can see why some would use or try MAP density . I have a 3/4” log and soon it will be 1” . I will try it sometime just to prove to me - ha .

The synchronizer reading will be 5 on the first carb and 7 on the other two . Not sure how much off that really is . If I try and adjust the idle screw on the first ITB , that moves the other two based on how the linkages are overlapped .

I guess I don’t know how that’s done and what it does . I run cable that moves first ITB that moves the rest . The first ITB needs more air but there’s no way I can see to adjust its linkage without moving the others . I hooked up the cable and this engine started and idled great - so no real complaints !

I don’t need much and it’s just on the first ITB. Maybe really have to crank out the bleeder to get anything out of it ?

Did you have to use the air bleeds to balance ports ? I tried opening one up and didn’t get any response in the air .

Thanks so much !! I will study these . I’ll download your tune and look at it . Sounds like our engines are very similar . what head and port size ?

Are you running Tunerstudio? Either way would you share some screen shots of your tables ? Curious how efficient you have the motor running as far as power vs mpg ? 45’s to small or looking for more power ? I think my small port head will like the smaller ITBS . You have a thread I can read up on ? thanks

All I’ve read in my adventure is that there is no way to run ITBS with speed density correctly . After tuning with MAP for years I see why you have to run Alpha . ITBS put you at atmosphere pressure so quickly with no plenum . It’s a challenge to rethink how the tables work with ITBS for sure .

You should really just post on FB because they love trolls and useless posting there

What’s funny is that just cruising around is all I’ve got done as far as a tune . I’ve got a Z friend Yanni Maltabes that use to post here I believe . He swears he can help me tune purely alpha N and it will as good as MAP . I’ve also come to the realization that I can no longer be lazy about learning Megalog viewer and analyzer . Maybe also got lucky that these FAJS ITBS seemed to be very solid right out the box . Solid idle and good enough to drive and tune . I also know my engine very well so I will know when I have it right . Who knows if I will stay the course forever or try my diesel intake later . Are you running the ITB or Alpha N ? Yanni tells me he can run every table strictly from TPS - which seems daunting . When I started reading about scatter plots and needing data logs from MAP runs to utilize ITB mode in MS is when I decided to go strictly TPS . I will have MAP in the background

I’ve been making an effort to get back to the forums . I usually post a link to here when people ask about stuff that’s been documented here for decades . My last job as an over the road locomotive engineer gave me lots of time in hotels to document . Now I’m retired and busier than ever - but use that as an excuse to not post . The forums saved me money and time and I’d like to pay it forward ! Now I’m the local Z guru which has made some cool connections and projects . I wish there was a better marketplace than FB - but it’s probably the best thing about FB- lol

It’s been a while since I’ve read on this thread. I wish I was # 23 ! Wish the thread did see more action as well as the site . I’m so tired of the FB shit

Ordered some cheaply sponge filters while I wait for my CAI box to get finished . Made a smaller vacuum log -3/4” PVC pipe . Despite having one of my widebands flaking on me I was able to drive around well enough that I wasn’t scared of dying on the road anywhere . Not much help out there for guys running MS and ITBS. Seems most Haltech or others . I’ve also got different perspectives on how to load certain tables . I have Yanni saying that all the tables can be run off of TPS and Richard that says running timing off of MAP is best . Presently I am going to try and run it all TPS . I can only hope the FAJS version of a TPS is accurate and reliable . I might eventually go with a contactless style from EFI hardware . For now I haven’t gotten past 38% TPS on my tuning so I’m not stressing my TPS to hard that’s for sure . Honestly - I didn’t think it would run even this good this early in the tune . I am trying to be patient with throttle input since I do hit big lean spots . I am also learning how to use Megalog Viewer at the same time that has a VE analyzer which is pretty damn cool .

Drove around yesterday with heat shield on . The tune is pretty rough and and sometimes the car wanted to die from starvation -scary . I used timing to lower idle after reading about a trick to deal with hit idle . Might have to call on Richard to help me remotely . Lots of rain right now so driving time is scarce .

Reducing vacuum line size seems to have helped the MAP reading. Looks like I might even get 60kpa at idle too! First drive was interesting for sure. Almost stalled pulling out in traffic and rich and lean mixtures all over the table-lol. The autotune was trying to correct but some of my settings were off. I didnt stay out long because it was Little 5 in Bloomington and too many crazy kids out . Monday when everyone is at work Ill do some more tuning, Idle seemed to increase as the engine got hotter. No heat shield yet so that is an issue

Latest version of mock up for test flight . It started up easy and just idled nicely - I was in shock - lol. MAP readings was around 65kpa at idle which isn’t much different than the plenum idled at . Reading was jumpy so I talked with Richard and dropped the vacuum like size from .250 to .125 - which should help smooth out the reading . Big cam and all it just idled and blipped ! Wont have the my CAI done for a minute so I’m going to run open stacks until my foamies come in . I won’t run it long like that but to get a base tune down . Murdered out my vacuum log so it would be so obtrusive .

Good news is my exhaust collector is ready for pick up ! Bolt this thing up and ready to fire . Reached out to Chickenman- Richard Boyk - who said he’s done tuning with ITBS before has set me up a base tune . Can say enough how helpful this is since Alpha N is all new to me .

ITBS are bolted down after doing some fitting of the Maxima Diesel intake . Still waiting on the welder to finish up my collector pipe so I can’t start it yet . Also need to finalize location of vacuum log that will be inside my CAI - whenever it gets done at the welder . I wish I could TIG worth a shit and my life would be easier - lol. Still most of the back breaking work of bolting this down and plumbing should be good to go .