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Here is the deal, I do know that some people get diesel cars , rip out the diesel, and install a hi-po gasser in there.
It's a common scam. They just want to avoid the smog inspection.
In L.A. it's a lot easier to simply plate the vehicle out of state to avoid smog.
Doing an engine change from diesel to gasoline is an extremely diffisult way to go to avoid a smog, IMO. There are far easier methods of evasion than that!
As for a non-op, you can't do that unless it's within 90 days of expiration...I just went through that one! Apparently, once you have paid registration fees on a vehicle in the state, you are STUCK for the duration of the year with a registered vehicle, you CAN NOT PNO the vehcile until the 90 day window. So if you don't have insurance on the vehicle for whatever reason, they suspend the registration, and you have to pay $14 to 'reinstate' it... Besides waiting till 90 days before expiration to PNO a vehicle that hasn't moved 50 feet in 7 years....
Like I said, don't get me started on the idiots at the DMV...
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The section quoted means no RETROFIT engines are legal (unless performed and documented to have occurred before the May 1984 Law Came in to effect).
You have a 1976 vehicle, a 1976 or newer engine with all applicable smog equipment can be used to do the engine swap. ANY passenger car engine is legal. This is the basis for this site! You can't tell me a 76 SBC is cleaner than a 2.8L inline six! It's any passenger car engine into any other passenger car. Hell, you could stick a ROTARY into it from a 78 RX7 and be legal (good luck getting it to pass smog out the pipe, though!!!LOL)
A 1975 engine swap is illegal, as would be one from a 1970, or an engine from a TRUCK and can not be certified no matter what you do...with the caveat that you will have to install all smog and emissions equipment from a 76 onto the 75 engine, and if it passes tailpipe and visual, then it will pass....but you are still being smogged to at least the chassis year of the vehicle.
Before May 1984, you COULD retrofit the engines, so if you put a documented 64 SBC into a 1976, the car would be smogged to a 1964 Standard.
I went round and round with BAR on this exact same thing when I tried to get my 73 Initially Registered in the state with a 1970 engine in it. BIG hassle, and long story short, they did not accept my documentation for the engine swap, and I was forced to have all 1973 Smog Stuff on the car (and as a result put out 10X the CO, and passed HC by 3ppm (997ppm vs 1000 allowable) compared to the 71 setup that was in the car which piped clean to 1983 CATALYZED standards!!!
Don't get me started on the stupid bureaucratic rules these idiots devise.
As for SEMA and E85. It's not written yet, it's not law yet, and until it is, you will drive yourself crazy planning for stuff as to the second it passes, it's available for total revision and scrapping. Such was the 30 (now 35) year rolling exemption from Visual Inspection for vehicles with Collector Car Insurance. (Yeah, it's in there, guys....)
As for lesd's contention of putting a Gas engine in a Z that was converted to Diesel why the hell would I ever do that?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?
Seriously, if I'm putting a diesel in there, it's getting a TURBO, and will make mroe than enough power for daily driving and occasional track usage. The Gasoline engines are not some great aura for me---I am in the process of converting a 1978 VW Microbus into a Turbodiesel. Once I go with the Magic Oil, I will not run the crap fuel once known for it's abilities to remove paint from clothing... The specific heat from Diesel is much higher than gasoline. You can get more power with less fuel than using Petrol. If it goes oil-burner, it STAYS oil burner.
If I wanted to get around SMOG and still run CAL plates, there are PLENTY of ways to do so that nobody says "Boo" at... But I'm not discussing them in a public (or private for that matter) forum. That is up for you guys to figure out on your own.
If nothing else, plate the vehicle out of state. Tell me how they prove you've been in the state more than the requisite 10 days with an intent to keep the vehicle in the state permanently... I ran Alabama plates for 4 years to circumvent smog on my 74, because I TOLD the idiots at the DMV that was what I was going to do! They refused to give me a TITLE on a car that DID NOT RUN but was complete. "We need a smog to get a title". No, NO they did NOT! But they were such idiots about it, I went and plated it out of state for four years (after I got it running) just out of SPITE.
The DMV is a bunch of idiots, and I'm too damned old to play their stupid people tricks just to have the priviledge of driving MY car on what they perceive as THEIR roads. Screw them!
Damn, you got me started. I better stop now...
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I'm missing the part in there where E85 makes a vehicle smog exempt. From my understanding, most E85 vehicles are 'multi-fuel' and those are not eligible for breaks like carpool lane access, or other dispensations.
Also, in reference to eec564s comment on 'swapping to a cleaner engine' this is totally untrue, and is nowhere in the CVC. The reqauirements are that you must swap from a comparable year vehicle, or newer, and no cross-swaps (from a truck to a car, for instance).
The Diesel was offered in 1983, and is a legal swap into any L-Engined Car as the Maxima was type certified in the USA as either an L24 Gasoline Powered vehicle, or a Diesel. This engine-type certification makes it easy to justify the swap without too much ado.
But that being said, you can swap a 350 Chevy from an 83 Camaro into an 83 Z without any requirement to retrofit EFI to the Carburettor system on the Chevy...so that should tell you something about 'cleaner engines' only being legal for swaps. You can put just about anything you want into anything else.
Just as long as all original smog equipment remains in place and functional, and the tailpipe tests clean you get your sticker at the referee's station and you are tested to that specification henceforth.
CNG is available in Tulare...
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I'm not sure what you're getting at with the last post. The section of the CVC you posted involved veehicles used for hire, not privately owned personal transport.
E85 IS available in California, you have to look for it.
Any vehicle can be converted to any fuel and can qualify for an exemption. Basically Hybrid and Diesel are your only options.
The CNG option is viable, because there is so many places to get fuel now, and passing emissions for the vehicle on CNG is very easy it's a very clean burning fuel.
Of course, if you convert a 75 and earlier vehicle to CNG, you need not smog it, and are entitled to apply for the "Solo Carpool" stickers! CNG lets you in the carpool lane, alone. Big fun with the CHP! Gotta love it!
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I reserve comment at this time, for fear of banishment.
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I think the bump steer adapters MSA sold me are the wrong size...
What diameter rims? The 3/4" should fit in most 14" rims, unless specified backspacing is too much, then rim construction may come into play.
15" should clear everything...what is the height of your spacers, and if this is not being built to a specific racing class (i.e. Hot Street Vehicle), why not relocate the inner A-Arm pivot point as well?
Funny, you can actually build a street vehicle that can handle better than most race vehicles, as you are not constrained by suspension mounting restrictions... I digress...
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im in northglenn cars not driveable your welcome to swing by sometime just let me know 104th and i-25
Oh wow, what is it, everybody in Denver live off 104th and I25?
I just met two guys there for lunch Thursday (Golden Corral by the Sams Club off Thorton Parkway (or something like that)---I know I went just north to take 104th to the Airport!
Maaaaaaan!
BTW, the early JDM 280Z(X)'s had a 'cargo cover' covering almost the whole rear deck because the things used a full-sized spare that was secured to the 'floor'---the thing was pressboard, and pretty much covered the area you are working with. Making the upper portion out of 'acoustically transparent' cover over a light screen mesh, you could accurately replicate what the original JDM interior looked like, even with all your expensive stereo stuff in there. Stealth is good in today's world of "smash and take because I want it" Rogues....
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Yeah, that's a classic "Stuck Needle" symptom.
Finding exactly what is sinking the needle (float leak, swarf in the works, fuel pressure) takes a bit more work!
Glad to hear it's fixed for now. You have a nice quality fuel filter on the inlet line, right....
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are you going to post up your results? i need boost control and water injector control to work with ms before it would be worth my time to switch over.
Like Pete said, Water Injector Controller has been in the Extra Code for a while, only looked at it in passing, but it's in there...
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ does not ship to international buyers. Can anyone order 5 for me? I can pay you via paypal or just send you dollars in an envelope. It's rather hard to get these parts cheap here in Holland.What are they, how much, and would they fit in a priority mail package so they get there faster than the turbo exhaust manifold??? You know better than to ask who can pick it up! Order extra, and then lord them over Frank!
PM me the details, and I can do it this week, I'm in-town according to the schedule I just saw, so should have time to pick them up/order, and ship...etc.
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"Polyflo" is a trade name for the stuff.
McMaster Carr has it as well, and they ship stateside for you remote people...
If you are in L.A. McFadden-Dale in Anaheim (LaPalma and Red Gum) has it---just north of the 91 FWY at Kramer/Glassell exit) They also have a web store now as well...which shocked me when I saw the sign. They have a full selection of Legris and Push-Lock Tubing Fittings as well. Nice thing about McF-D is that it's out on the floor---touchy-feely guys can mock stuff up and try out flexibility, etc.
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Actually...
There are inserts from Nissan that were available for the IRON towers from the early L-4 engines. Thin walled bushings will also work---it's a common machining practice. Line-bore the towers oversize, then install bushings.
You can also have the towers welded up with a heliarc, and then re-linebored.
All common machine shop stuff.
But finding good ones in the JY is easier.....now...
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YEP! He hit it on the head, MILL SCALE. Probably something like a 1/8" (0.125") thick or thicker, right? Definately Mill Scale by the sounds of it.
Black Magic will take it off, but doesn't leave a nice smooth surface to powdercoat.
Try a 4" grinder with a 60 grit flapper wheel, and then clean it up with something slightly finer till you can finish your stuff with some abrasive blasting.
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I did noe of these after seeing Andy Flagg's Black 73 TurboCar. Similar to what Datsunlover describes, I used one of those universal choke cables, and poked it through the upper portion of the hatch. Opening is simply a tug away to pop it. I snaked it down the left side next to the window (inside the hatch), and made a littel bracket to secure the spiral outer cable support (like the heater clamps for the vent controls on a 240) so the pull-button end really only needed to rest inside the rubber grommit I put in there to keep it from rattling around. That hatch was rusty rusty rusty...Ended up doing a Mercy Donation to someone who had their back glass broken out so they had a secure hatch for their long drive home. I ended up getting a decent hatch (sans glass) out of the deal ...
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Frank 280ZX flew to MSA, then he, Xander, ianz, and my son loaded five S30 chassis & Incomplete vehicles (less taxes), along with his rust-free 280ZX-R for shipment to Europe.
Then they acid dipped the chassis.
Then they said "Find more cars for us, it's unreal, these things have absolutely NO rust---we have NEVER seen cars like this shape, even three year old BMW's have more rust than these chassis!"
So yeah, with the money you are willing to commit---you can find one damn nice rust-free car. And none of that hidden inside the A-Pillar condensation Rust either! Just stay away from Beach Cars. High Desert all the way!
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Yes, Bartman put up what I was going to: FEDERAL law trumps state law on this point. Removing any emissions components is illegal. So is inactivating them.
And yes, the Feds do occasionally check in various places around the USA. Last place I knew of was a DOT compliance check down in SanDiego. Believe it or not, they were actually busting people for E-Code Headlights...
They have done it on the east coast as well.
Anyway, why bother? They are all inactive under WOT anyway. They do not affect performance in any significant way.
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Diesel is a viable alternative.
Propane would work IF you rebuilt the engine with 13:1+ compression and remapped the spark curves to give decent power and take advantage of the octane---otherwise the power will be way down with a straight across conversion.
CNG will work as well, and surplus vehicles with all the parts are floating around out there.
Those Gasseous fuel conversions can be a bear toget initially inspected, moreso than making your gasoline engine pass!
Electric just isn't practical.
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Actually the phrase "Springs, where we're going, we don't need springs!"
First is the pneumatic spring, basically an air chamber sealed by o-rings that can close the valves---the springrate is infinately variable by the pressure in the chamber.
Second, the DEVAS system uses electrohydraulic actuators, there are no springs. Hydraulic pressure is counterbalanced to move the valve like a spool valve in any other Hydraulic System. The key to the control you need for the opening and closing rates is the piezo control of the orifices diverting the flow to open or close side. This is similar to peizo control of Diesel Fuel Injectors.
There is also (from what I understand) a system whereby the solenoids CLOSE the valves, and Hydraulics, or opposing Solenoids OPEN the valve. By using PWM signals to the two solenoids on each valve, you can infinately vary opening and closing rates, lift, and etc...
Engine oil would most likely not be required on the top end of the engine for anything after the conversion.
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wowo, woowee! Something happened to my post, it's dissapeared.
I leave the rear drums adjusted loose when dragging, and then readjust them back before going home at night's end. Works for me!
wonder where my post went?
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If the ignitor on the coil is going, or improperly grounded, then you will have coil problems. Same goes for our 81-83 ZXT's here.
The big "Power Transistor" on the coil needs to be grounded for it to properly gate the power to the coil. If it's going out, or has bad contact, your car will just quit.
Another thing to try is hitting the thing with some freez-it component cooler. It may be that it's in formative stages of heat related failure, so it fails when warmed up, and won't work again till the component has cooled. If hitting it with freez-it lets it fire up and run, then you have it isolated, and will need to replace the component. Once they start failing getting warm, the only get worse, leading eventually to total failure. Which may be where you are now!
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nissan comes to mind, how much can one be new?
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"With a stock sized runner, you'll only get "X" cfm out of the head."
I don't know if JeffP actually posted those numbers, but he had Nathan check the head flow alone, head with the stock manifold on it, and one with the "ultimate" intake stub on it. I don't remember his port flow, but I think the stock intake cut that down 30cfm. It's quite a bit percentage wise given his port flow. But if you don't have port work done like Spork says.... if it's not done to support AT LEAST that "X-30cfm" that JeffP found when testing the stock extrude-honed manifold, chances are a different one will not benefit you all that much.
It's true! The power in the L-Engine is all in the head. Get someone who knows what they are doing and you will be amazed what you can get without massive pressure ratios on your turbo!
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This is not the way it works with automobiles in the state of California. You have no right to utilize a vehicle on public roads unless you meet their rules.
Matter of fact, unless you are paying fees, you can't really even have a vehicle on your own property wihout the state retaining the right to confiscate it if the fees are not paid...
Welcome to Government oversight of everyday life. We voted for it, can't complain when it becomes the eventual reality.
Before we digress further, let's not go there...
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Most useless post of the day Tony..
How about you link us to your gallery and we'll find the pics from there, or discuss some of the wonderful things you discovered whilst looking at the car?
Dave
Helix/Dave:
LIKE STATED in the post, there is an issue with the Yahoo Server rotation, and I can apparently only invite people individually.
They were in a public album for over two years, and nobody came to look even though stuff was posted. I sent linking notifications out in bulk mailings.
Matter of fact, I started getting grief because of how difficult it was to access them, and then people started getting downright demanding and rude, so I made them private.
You think with your attitude when it becomes difficult for you to access them I won't get more grief? So what is my upside to reopening that can of worms?
Maybe a useless post, but no more worthless that yours. maybe all three need to go to the tool shed. But given past history it's not worth my time to link them---just gets me too much grief. See, even mentioning them has drawn fire...
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Man, I posted gobs of those photos at my Yahoo Photo Gallery DURING the convention in Syracuse. Talk about chance of a lifetime. I was on the floor underneath that thing taking photos.
When you get the chance to learn from the masters, even by observation, make the most of it. When I went back to look at the photos, even after intently studying the thing up close and personal, I STILL found neat littel details I missed!
Yahoo changes their server rotation, otherwise I could link to them.
That was the car that I photographed coming out of the corner at 80mph, with the hood totally flush with the fenders. But by the time it was passing the grandstands at over 120+mph, you could see the hood bowed up from underhood pressure significantly. Telling about some issues encountered at-speed when dealing with an S30 Chassis, even with a G-Nose!
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Like I said, there are far easier methods to get around smog than to swap a diesel in there, get it inspected and through the referee station, and then pull it all out again to install an petrol engine. Lots of work for something that can be had much easier just moving paperwork.