ComicArtist Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 After having coilovers for a few months, I'm wondering if my pillowball mounts are really necessary in the rear. In the fronts, when the wheels turn to the right or left, the whole shock actually pivots on the monoball, so I can see it's necessary for the front. But in the rear, that never really happens. Is it really necessary? Either way, I'm running T3 camber plates all the way around which incorporate monoballs into their plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yes, they are necessary for the strut to change its angle as the suspension compresses and extends. Not necessary to allow for twisting, so you could replace the monoballs with a big rubber bushing and be OK, but you can't replace the monoball with a solid insert. Well, you can, it's just not a good idea and something will break very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluDestiny Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) you could replace the monoballs with a big rubber bushing and be OK My Kei office coilovers have a rubber bushing on the rear, my friend thought it was weird since most come with monoball. I just knew it needed some movement for compression. Edited May 9, 2012 by BluDestiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicArtist Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Hm ok. The only s13 coils I can find with rear pillowballs are Powered By Max, know of any others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurePontiacKid Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I know Megan's do for sure. I've got another pair of Stances and they do not have pillowball uppers. Just curious, but why are you asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattausten23 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Don't mean the thread jack but I'm doing s13 Stances all around. Will I need to get pillowball mounts? I know when I turn the front wheels the coilovers will be threading up and down right? I have the Zccjdm camber plates. Edited May 15, 2012 by mattausten23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 No. The lower spring perch will not be threading up and down unless the Stance setup is a pile of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 No. The lower spring perch will not be threading up and down unless the Stance setup is a pile of crap. :lmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 No. The lower spring perch will not be threading up and down unless the Stance setup is a pile of crap. Isn't that the self-leveling design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peej410 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Most of the better camber plates (adjustable pillow ball, aka, monoball, aka spherical bearkngs) incorporate a bearing that allows for the rotation of the suspension about an axis through the upper "pillow ball" and the lower ball joint. The spring usually has the weight of the car on it the perches dont often move. Plus youre also supposed to lock them down. This second bearing is there to keep from trying ro wind and unwind the spring when the wheel is turned. When the suspension is compressed the ball joint swings out nearly perpendicular to the centerline of the car (think trans tunnel) The upper mount stays fixed to the body. This makes a rotating or deflecting part necessary. The factory used bushings, and without going into too long of a discussion bushings last a long time are cheaper and dont allow the suspension to move freely. Any control arm swings in an arc. Just like the tips of your fingers do when you flap your arms like a bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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