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well i lost it.......... i really lost it..


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i just lost it.. i put the rotor on the wrong way.. my dad called a "FUCKN MORON" i said **** you and i slammed my wrench onto my car as hard as i could.. i dont no how it looks.. i then spit on the Z06, and threw some grease on it.. my dad said something else and hit my car, i dont no where... i then pushed over a box of parts i had toward his vette, didnt hit it though.. then i just the door and i heard a LOUD ass sound. i dont no what he did, i dont care...

i really dont care.. i give up..

i dont no what to do, and at this point i dont care..

i made a mistake by putting the rotor on the wrong way, SO WHAT.. IM NOT LORD JESUS CHRIST!.. oh get this.. he said just now "come help me now" he is just about to put the rotor.hub on again and he has the whole ROTOR on turned around.. WAY more wrong then i had it... the whole hat was flipped around..

GREAT JOB DAD!

i swear... im gonna get this car done, some what.. bring it to texas, put it in my garage and let it sit, only take it out when i feel like it.. ill never finish it 100% i really dont care. ill do what i have kinda planed to it but not 100% of it.. ill buy my other Z and do IT MYSELF! and finish that.

i dont care..

i would sell this Z if i didnt have so much damn money in it.

sorry guys for the time, i just have to vent..

 

mike

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uh... i hate to be .... well... ignorant.

 

but how do you put a rotor on wrong?

 

Dude, just calm down, take a break, do something completely unrelated to the car for a while. come back to it later, cool, calm, and collected. Everything will go very smooth. Anger doesnt belong in a garage... (in my driveway is another story :-))

 

As soon as you feel yourself getting angry... just shut down, take a breath, bite the urge to destroy. Dont piss your father off. If you have to take your frustration out on something then go find yourself a 4X4 plank and an axe.

 

Working on the car is not a chore. it's a luxury.

 

Joe

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the rotors are the wilwood ones, there vented and i have the vents going in the wrong way.. i jsut forgot about that..

its no big deal, its easy to take off..

my dad had the whole rotor, and hat flipped in the wrong spot.. and was in the wrong way.

theres a pretty big ding in the car from my dad.. i just hit where the stock 280Z turn signals use to be..

 

mike

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Ah... i see.

 

Dont worry mike.. Everything will work out fine...

 

And if you dont want the wilwoods and the coil overs and all that trick stuff you got... send it my way :-) I'd trade my V8Z for the car you are building.... eh... maybe not, i have put too much work into my car...

 

Have fun man, shiny stuff rocks!

 

Joe

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yeah thanks... shiny stuff is cool, but it always seems harder to make it fit right... i just want this car done.. just done if i win the latto ill send the crap box out to get done and thats it... if not ill drive it off a cliff..

DAMN HUB IS PISSING ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe ill just paint my Z ORANGE, with a big wing, and some NAWZ and it should be easy to work on, and it would fit perfect.. cuz i mean Paul Walker.. um sorry i mean Brian O'conner made woking on that 14sec....um 10sec supra look easy....

damn Z's.

 

mike

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yeah i know.. i dont know whats his problem.. he just came in and said "sorry but i told you we should have just brought it out to let somebody do all this work"

i dont think he gets why i bought this car in the 1st place for... nor does he get how much money labor would be for everything we did and still need to do.

 

thanks guys.

 

mike

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Hmmm, perhaps your choice of a hobby needs to be re-evaluated. You need to go into this with the mindset that 1) "bolt-on" is not really bolt-on. The part WILL need to be modified in some way, shape, or form to make it work as designed, 2) that unless you've done this specific job a dozen times, then it will aways take twice as long to do it than you think. Slow is fast and fast is slow. Same thing applies here too.

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yeah i know.. good advise Terry..

we are doing ok now.. we just put the other strut on the otehr side.. just torqued down all bolts, put the calipers on the mounts, and now we are just doing the hubs..

 

mike

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:( Time for some anger management classes.... Got to relax man, you get wound up that tight behind the wheel and somebody is going to get hurt!

 

Like was said above, working on your Z should be fun, as soon as it stops being fun do something else and come back later.

 

I think maybe part of the problem is that your dad is working with you both to help and enjoy your time together, bonding as was said before, but maybe he is out of his league working on a Z and his pride is hurting when he isn't able to guide you because he is learning too. He is from a generation that grew up with dad's knowing everything, if you had a question dad had the answer. You are hitting him hard with "questions" that he doesn't have answers for and he is hurting because he can't answer.

 

Give him and yourself a break and work together, learn together. Ask him what he thinks when you go to assemble something even if you know the answer, get him involved. TEAMWORK!

 

And as an old man to a young man let me add, if everything went as planned where would the challange be, to win at life you must learn to improvise,adapt, and overcome the challanges. With every challange met and won you will become a stronger, more independent indivual ready to take what life hands you. Life is a $hit sandwich, how big a bite you take is up to you...

 

Off my soapbox,

Lance

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This advice may be totally out of place but I bet a jelly donut it'll help. When you're totally cool go apologize to your dad for the temper loss. If it looks like the conversation will turn sour in any way, find a way to leave quick before it does. DO NOT discuss who did what/why etc. just apologize and if he does to then great... if not, he'll still be easier to get along with later. My .02c's from experience. (I might have made one or two people mad in my time but don't tell anyone ok?)

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Here`s my .02 :? I`ve been watching your posts for a while now, and have come to the opinion that you are trying to do too much too fast.

 

You have been buying parts of all sorts at a frantic pace, not even taking the time to install what you`ve bought before ordering more.

 

It seems to me that you are trying to accomplish in a few months time what most of us have yet to complete after years of haveing our Z

projects.

 

You need to step back and take a breather from the project,but don`t have time because you are leaving for texas in a few weeks or so.

This is a very bad situation to be in, because your stress level will only get higher as your deadline approaches.

 

This will most likely cause you to either, take shortcuts, or possibly overlook some detail that could cause some sort of premature failure.

(hopefully not on your trip)

 

I would be very reluctant to ake such a long trek in a car so soon after hastilly putting it together. might I suggest trailering the car to texas and finishing it when you are in a better frame of mind?

 

I think you are taking the fun out of the project. I too was guilty of this just recently, and had to step back and take a braether. Luckily i don`t have to have the car for anything other than pleasure cruises.

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Ditto what Denny411 said. I think your moving way to fast and I did the same thing. I got lucky though and didnt make any major mistakes that could have caused me any harm. Things like struts(coilovers) and brakes should be done at a slow pace and you should be double checking everything you do. you dont want a strut(coilover) to fall off the car do you! :shock: Or for your brake system to fail! :shock::shock:

 

Like everyone is saying step back and dont let a car get the best of you and your dad. The only reason I have my car is because my dad pasted away when I was 17(Im 21 now). There isnt a day that goes by that I wouldnt trade my car for my dad. Dont let a car ruin your relationship with your dad. There will always be another Z!

 

 

Guy

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I think Denny hit it on the head. You are trying to hard to do TO MUCH at once. You are gonna hate the car when you are done. I call my son stupid little names when we are working together and he dishes it back to me. However, I've never shown him the level of disrespect to damage anything but his pride, and I certainly wouldn't stand for him damaging or spitting on a $50,000 sports car. :shock:

 

My advice is to sit there and put yourself in his shoes. I'm sure he has worked real hard to put a wonderful roof over your head, keep you in the most wonderful of clothes, and has provided you an unmeasurable amount of advice. Yea, maybe he doesn't want to help YOU with YOUR project every time you need something done on it. My guess is he values his free time away from work and may not want to turn wrenches on your project as much as you do.

 

However, You need to rethink how you react to him, and what you say or do. Had a son of mine done those things, we would be discussing how he was gonna sell his project to pay for damages, and where he would be living come the next morning.

 

Respect, Michael. I'm sure he has earned it. :x

 

Mike Kelly

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i under stand what you guys say..

but none, and i mean NONE if this was my fault...

My father HIT my car with a wrench, so what if his car is more money, he paid for his, i paid for mine... so i dont care it equals out. he had no right to yell at me and call me a F'en stupid.. I mean i never ever say anything towards him thats bad and he did to me.. so what if i spit on his car.. he DENTED my car.. spit comes of with a rag dents dont!!!!

 

but i dont care, he said he was sorry and we are fine now..

he knows i show plenty of respect towards him, my mom had to slap him on the back of the head to keep remeinding him that im paying for all these parts and doing this to my car not for me, but for US..

 

mike

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Sounds like an episode of American Chopper :lol:

 

I agree whole heartedly that the price tag of the car is irrelivant. Glad to hear that you guys made up, just try to take a break before you get that wound up. Although I cant imagine how I would respond if my Dad talked to me like that... :evil:

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Just chill dude, try to talk reason with your dad, not emotions -- and when emotions start overpowering it is time to stop what you are going and just chill: get a beer, watch tv, read a book, what ever rocks your boat. For me driving my Z, but if it is not possible 100mg of vodka will cure the emotions and stress.

 

Now with working on the car, don't expect to have everything done the first time and first time takes 2-10 times longer then it would normally take. For example: to changes struts it is 8 hours of work according to Pep-Boys and that is for all four of them - cost $600 worth of labor. With my mentor, it took us 12 hours to change the first one -- JUST ONE and took f--ing 2 hours to loosen one bolt. Now when I did it by my self a year later and with all of the bolts loosened took me only one day to change structs and BUSHINGS in the back (extra work). Just needed some help to put the diffy back in its place. Now with front suspension another day and replaced struts, bushings, tie-rod ends and ball joints.

 

Conclusion: as you break your car in (in upgrades and repairs) it will shorter amount of time to do that job.

 

I have other examples, but this was the most relevant since you are doing the brakes. Just have fun and if you need to break some thing take a slenge hammer to a 4x4 or something.

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