doublexl240z Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I went to Lowes and bought a dryer cord that matched the outlet, and a female end that matched the welder and made a jumper/adapter. This also allows me to move the welder a little bit as most of the welders I have owned have short power leads. Figure on spending about 15-20 bucks and killing 2 birds with one stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 Can someone post a picture of there mm175 female and male plug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_hunt Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I standardized and used a 50 amp dryer plug on everything. Keep in mind that de-rating is for continuous use. Your never in that situation as far as plug and outlet rating are concerned. Wire size is a different story, go with 10 guage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 I went to Lowes today and checked out the electrical section. Looks like I can make a extension cord for around $1.20 per foot. Plus a 3 dollar plug on each end. dr_hunt, can I just replace the stock plug the welder comes with and wire up one to match my black dryer outlet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 "Help choosing a welder 220v/110v?" thats SIMPLE ....there are NO 110 Volt welders that will do as good a job as the better 220Volt welders will over nearly as wide a range of conditions! and having at least a 180 amp rating will allow most automotive work to be done. now Ive used a bunch of welders and while Im certainly not a pro at welding, I think youll be served well with a miller 180, personally I prefer TIG welders,and oxy-acetolene welders they are both slow but produce great quality welds if youve developed some skill in thier use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_hunt Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I went to Lowes today and checked out the electrical section. Looks like I can make a extension cord for around $1.20 per foot. Plus a 3 dollar plug on each end. dr_hunt, can I just replace the stock plug the welder comes with and wire up one to match my black dryer outlet? Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Yes! I should have asked that question in the first place...lol I'm already gathering up scrap steel so I can weld until I run out of gas, literally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 with a sylvania pannel i would suggest looking at a service change. this will give you better breakers and better grounding to your house. Also as a side note when you get a quote dont say you want to save the breakers but tell the guys that come out around here the single pole breakers go for like 9 bucks a pop and the two poles go for around 15 ish so find a used breaker supplier there to sell them to youll make money just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 with a sylvania pannel i would suggest looking at a service change. this will give you better breakers and better grounding to your house. Also as a side note when you get a quote dont say you want to save the breakers but tell the guys that come out around here the single pole breakers go for like 9 bucks a pop and the two poles go for around 15 ish so find a used breaker supplier there to sell them to youll make money just my .02 It will be fine, the previous owner who built the house welded alot, so it's all setup, I just have to get the right plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 yea its fine just when you get ahead is all that i ment no dire need if it was an fpe id tell you to worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 yea its fine just when you get ahead is all that i ment no dire need if it was an fpe id tell you to worry I think you were right. We called the previous owner of the house, and he said the 250v 50amp line didn't meet code when the inspector came, so it's disconnected (somthing about it being below the breaker?). What should I do? How much should it be to have a new breaker installed so I can have a 230v welder? I could probably do the work if I made sure the electricity was off. lol. Should I just get an electrician for a quote? thats a bummer, i thought it was all setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 By the way, I'm buying the welder from the local welding supply, there price is only like 30 more than ebay prices, plus they'll have all the support and parts, and a 80cu full cylinder is $160. I'm sure they'll throw in some wire and maybe a helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 ok here is the thing its really messed up but call an electrician out and ask them what them would do to fix it they will get you close and with pictures i could get you closer and a discription of what they say get a smaller company or they wont help as much as you need them to ask them whats wrong with the current setup and let me know ill send you my e-mail addy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 about $1000 is the quote to change the whole panel.......I don't know, might end up having to buy a mm135 instead so I can just use it in any outlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 thats actually a good price for a service plus a service change will up the value of the house just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 I was looking at the specs for the mm135, and it says it draws MORE amps than the 175. the 175 draws 19.5, and the 135 draws the full 20 amps... So how could I run a 135 on a normal house outlet that has a 20 amp breaker? It wouldn't be any more portable than the 175, unless u have a 30 amp circuit on all your normal outlets. Can anyone clear that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexideways Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 The lower the voltage, the higher the Amp need, the 220V. unit will pay for itself in the long run trough less curent draw thus, lower electricity bill. Just take a look at what car companies are developing, 48V. systems, to be able to reduce the size of the wires because they'll have less Amps to handle. Cause with all the electronics in cars today, dragging around 500 milles of copper wire tends to make thing heavier than need be. My 0,02$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 edit: Well, I got hold of a electrician and the previous owner of the house, and the only reason the plug didn't meet code was because it wasn't mounted in the wall. It's all hooked up now, and I just talked to the guy at the welder supply and he said a 50amp breaker is fine because the welder itself has a overload protection, even with a long extension cord it will be fine. So that relieved alot of stress, now I can go pick up the mm175 and burn some metal here's the setup now, it's all hooked up and ready to be turned on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexideways Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Glad to hear that!!!! Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zV8 Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 Glad to hear that!!!! Have fun. thanks, it really made my day when I got all this sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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