Ansel Marrow Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 ...I need to fill in a few holes. Theres one near where the seatbelt bolts in, and a small area of rust that I cut out in the passenger side floorboard, that I bolted in a new peice of steel. I was considering using caulk, or silicone to seal it up watertight, then using the herculiner. Would the herculiner be enough to seal it? or would it be better off if I used the silicone or some other sealant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsk8ter Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 i think it would do fine but why chance it for like 5 bucks of sylicone just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertsonsgarage Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 for bodywork seams use seam sealer. You should be able to find it at a local bodyshop supply store. It comes in tubes like caulking and also in squeeze tubes. Thats what auto makers use to seal up car and truck bodies. Good Luck, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeatrpi Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 You bolted in a floor patch? If you don't have a welder and the patch is small, consider using JBWeld or panel adhesive from an autobody store. And as stated above, there are specific seam sealers you can buy from an autobody store or even Autozone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertsonsgarage Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I missed the "bolted in" part. If you do not own a welder or can't get access to one, use pop rivets. It's not the best, but it works. They also make a very good epoxy that bonds metal just as strong as welding but you have to be able to clamp it for several hours. Either way, remember to undercoat the area. Water, condensation, and dirt can get into the smallest of areas and cause big trouble later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelloman457 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 panel bond from sherwin williams. The cover the edges with seam sealer and undercoat it. Prime if need be then undercoat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansel Marrow Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 I tried pop rivets. Maybe in stil new to them, but it felt kinda loose when I used them. thus, I went with small bolts, and it holds down really well. Ill try jb weld tonight, and if I cant find any, ill go with the panel bond. After the bedliner and the carpet on top, no one will notice im sure. Im still treating the inside minor spots with ospho, and cleaning the whole interior with acetone, then ill do the jb weld then bedliner. how well does herculiner/bedliner sound insulate the car? really well or sortof well? I spent 2 hours taking up that crappy old insulation, so Im wondering if i will lose insulation after i add i nthe bedliner becuase i removed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 how well does herculiner/bedliner sound insulate the car? I'm sure it does something similar to the old crusty tar patches that you scraped out of the car. If it doesn't do anything (I think it will), you can always apply some Dynomat, Lizardskin, or Brown bread to the interior. I'd keep it as is and see how it does, especially if you lay on 1/8" to 1/4" thick. You can always sound deaden the doors and ceiling with Dynomat later if you need to. Just my $.02 Good luck! Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertsonsgarage Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Using a 1/8" drill bit and 1/8" steel rivets should give you a tight fit. Make sure that you have your patch as tight against the repair area as possible so there is no gap to make it loose. The other common size is 3/16". As far as noise goes, either turn that stereo up or for 50 cents buy some foamy ear plugs. Noisy cars are great for women. Just keep nodding your head while driving, they won't know the difference and will just keep on talking. ha,ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansel Marrow Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 Bedliner went down EASY this weekend. Did 2 coats, nice and thick. Ill have pics up later this week, maybe in 2 days. The before and after are astounding. The jb weld worked great, I filled the gaps. You cant even tell them panel is in there, it looks so smooth. One thing you guys are going to hate is, I couldent take up the tool kit covers (the bolts were rusted in pretty badly) so I osphoed them in and herculined over the little hatches. I wont be needing the space, and If i REALLY have to get into them, Ill just cut them open from behind the seat. I work in a metal shop, so Im having a stainless steel console/ac control panel made, with new switches for wiring, horn, cd player etc. Ill make a progress thread on it. Thanks for the advice guys, now this weekend the whole car gets rewired! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallicar Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 You work in a sheet metal shop with no welding equipment? Oh well. Did you mix in the rubber turds in the Herculiner? Or just use the smooth? You could use a roofing product called "Peel & Seal" for sound insulation, found at Lowes & Home Despot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansel Marrow Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 sorry for the late reply. Yeah I mixed up the herc with a paint mixing tool and a drill. Here are the finished pics. Came out great if I do say so myself. Yeah, but Id have to GET the car to the sheet metal shop for them to do welding on it. And my boss would probabaly charge me. JB weld rocks too. Like solid steel almost. Before After Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTHALOSISM Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Nice Very Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Looks nice! Did you put it over the original tar or did you tear all that out? Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansel Marrow Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 Spent about 2 hours tearing out the old tar. The GF came out to help me, but she gave up after 5 mins. Go fig. I bought some undercoating to spray under the car, do any of you have experience with 3M rubberized undercoating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 looks good does the car run? does it kill some of the sound from the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbhsbZ Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 2 hours to pull up the tar? Whats your trick? It took me a whole weekend, 2 bottles of propane for my blowtorch, and about 5 wire wheels for the angle grinder to get mine down to clean metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 My dad read somewhere that you get a some dry ice, leave it on a small section for a while, then chisel it off. I really want to try this as I'm thinking of painting the inside of my car too. Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks280zt Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ding ding ding! Winner, I used dry ice before and it took about 2 hours to do the whole car. I wasn't able to get ahold of some for my new project car I am working on now. But, it was sitting in a non heated garage for a couple weeks in pretty cold temps, literally took 5 minutes to pull the tar out of the hatch area, I used my hand mostly, it pulled up in big sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexideways Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ha Ha... Here in Canada, I finally found an advantage to winter, since here, the build-ups usually happen during winter, I just push the car outside, wait for it to freeze, then roll it back inside chisel away and repeat the process if you took to much of your time for cold beverages and letting the car warm up in the meantime. Lookin' good by the way. would bed liner be good for undercoating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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