gjc5500 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I have decided after alot of thinking to finaly make my 73 240 into a drift car. i know that alot of people have problems with this due to the chance of wrecking but i didnt get this car to baby it. so yea. my build idea was this: tokico struts AZC springs 3.2L stroker(still undecided) solid rear diff mount clsd(nismo?) msa swaybars 225 70 14 in the front 195 70 14 in the rear(maybe 17s) braced front chassis anything that i missed/should change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I dont see much of a difference of the suspension setup compared to a normal car. Isnt there alot more to drift cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjuju Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I dont see much of a difference of the suspension setup compared to a normal car. Isnt there alot more to drift cars? mainly screwed up body panels and primer. I think you should not worry about putting 17's on it. more inertia. that's as far as my argument is going to go. use small rims, easier to accelerate in both directions that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismopick Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I dont see much of a difference of the suspension setup compared to a normal car. Isnt there alot more to drift cars? Stiff as hell coil overs... Traditional struts will still allow for a lot of body roll. Body roll = bad for drifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcer Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Why are you running smaller tires in the back? Most of the drift cars that I've seen run wider in the back, then agian they have gobs of power to turn'em. mopar69: It depends on driver preference. If seen spec sheets on peoples setups. It ranged from expensive coilovers with all the bells and whistles, to basic springs and shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panachedk Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 id add some camber plates of some sort. add some neg. camber and its easier to the step the rear end out until you're good enough to clutch kick it loose. and get a serious clutch, others will burn up rather quickly and build the motor for some high revs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Also must drifters around here run a welded diff not a lsd. You will want to run atleast equal front and rear tires for control. Drifting is more about slipping balance than gripping balance. So when you are slipping and going sideways you want your rear tires to be able to grip just as much as your front tires so usually rear tires are larger because of this. But you need power to do this. Atleast that is what i've learned from some 240sx'ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 You'll also need a stiff body. Strut tower bars may not be enough - if you're after simple and effective solutions, you might want to research the expanding polyurethane foam, which considerably stiffens the chassis (but also creates a perfect place for keeping humidity in car = rust). Additional spot welding, a rollbar (or even better - a full rollcage) and strut tower bars should do the trick. Trust me, a stiff body makes wonders with handling... I once drove a fairly stock S14, and after a while I drove another S14, but that one was stripped, gutted, had additional welds, strut tower bars, and a welded diff. And boy, did it drift well... By the way: wouldn't it be simplier, cheaper and easier for you to get a complete, running L28ET, swap it in and beat it to death? I'd be less worried about a junkyard stock L28ET than a nicely built 3,2 stroker motor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globerunner513 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 well first off go and find a copy of best motoring's "Drift Bible" by tsushiya. watch that about a hundred times or so... you don't need big power to drift by any means. it can actually hinder you in some ways. Learn with what you've got first. I would stiffen up the suspension a bit, get a LSD or weld the diff. 1 wheel drive doesn't do well with drifting Save the big motor upgrades for later. learn to drift your car first. then the power will help you once you want to get into more complicated drifting styles. At some point you're gonna want to figure out how to get more travel out of your front wheels. Stock, they don't have enough travel left to right to be able to get good drift angles set up, especially for an under-powered car. There was a couple threads on here about how to go about doing this. A search of 240z drifting should pull it up. I am not an expert, or anything close. but im around the drifting scene quite a bit here, and pick up some tips every now and then. good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcer Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 That is good advice. If I had a way to upload dvds, I would upload the Drift Bible because I own a copy. If not, I think someone uploaded it on google video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjc5500 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 so 225 14 all around? might go coilovers if i can get the money ive practiced clutch kicking alot lately but my clutch is starting to slip so im taking it ez for now. the stifining i was talking about was welding a couple crossmembers in teh front/back will check out drift bible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globerunner513 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 good plan. be careful of the clutch kick....its a fastrack to destruction if not done right i'd probably start with an e-brake drift, follow it up by powering over...learn to control angles and slides and then you can play with different ways of initiating the drifts. just a thought. Definately watch the drift bible. he explains it waaay better. and fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panachedk Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 e brake is the easiest to learn. just be safe... it may not be your driving, something can (and will) break and put you in a wall doing about 50. it hurts. bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 You'll need coil overs and some stiff springs. If you are on a budget you can use the CO sleeves and the stock upper if you weld a small piece of 2.5" tube in there. I've done it. I know alot of people say not to go over 250 for regular strut inserts (I do) but I would run 375-500 and big bars. Having soft suspension and body roll and sliding from left to right would not be my idea of fun. I would not run alot of camber in the rear either. It will just kill the insides. There isn't the same load on a tire of a car sliding sideways as there is in a hard corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjc5500 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 clutchkicking is a fast way to break stuff but i have no ebrake. i started practicing fainting but my setup is too soft. clifton, plz explain more indepth cuz im on a budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tx1021 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Theres a member on here, don't know his screen name though, that drifts his S30. Hopefully he will see this and chime in. Heres a pic from a drift event this summer. I'm riding shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 clifton, plz explain more indepth cuz im on a budget What part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombarace14 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I think youre talkin about driftz240 Im pretty sure he sold his Z and went semi-pro or pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjc5500 Posted December 7, 2007 Author Share Posted December 7, 2007 about the on budget coil over thing u were talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismopick Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 budget coil overs = grind struts, weld perches / thread plates, install springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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