m1noel Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I finally took the Z to the track Saturday afternoon. Street tires, d/a over 6400'. Couldn't get out of the box Best 60' was 2.092 on my first run in which I completely forgot to look at the tach. Hit the rev limiter in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. My times got a little faster each run but my 60' times got worse and worse. Best run was my 4th and last. 60'-2.286 330-5.758 1/8-8.567 MPH-89.06 1000'-10.958 1/4-12.961 MPH-113.09 I was pretty happy with the car, pretty dissapointed with the driver. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 12 second car... boy what a disappointing time. lol bragger =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 step one, adjust the tire pressure to maximize the contact between tire tread and pavement. step two learn to be consistant and watch the tach, at some rpm,level, between about 1200rpm-3500rpm, your car will launch without bogging if you bring the rpm up to that rpm and then hold it and launch...by depressing the throttle over a second or so rather than slaming it to the floor with your foot,PRACTICE, its a LEARNED SKILL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmanco Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 12 second car... boy what a disappointing time. Ha, I was thinking the same thing Open up any issue of Car and Driver and look at how few street cars can run 12's and how much they cost. Pretty awesome that 12 is where you're starting out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1noel Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Thanks guys. I really know the car is capable of sub 12.5's as it sits, but I would really need to practice the launch. Having never drag raced before, it LOOKED easy. A little more to it than I thought. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dig back about a year ago... I posted the same thing... 11.24 @ 127MPH pulling the front wheels and having a horrid reaction... Depends on what you want to be good at... Drag racing takes lots of skill. I just prefer something that holds my attention a little longer... You're easily in a 12 second car... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letitsnow Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Not bad for a first outing, keep practicing. You should be able to squeak out some 11's with a 113mph trap, I've gone 12.3 at 109 in my camaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauisnow13 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Nice! I always wondered what your car would do in the quarter. I'm sure you can get into the 11's with a good launch. May want to try feathering the clutch instead of dropping it. Not sure if you were bogging or spinning. Take it on some backroads and practice. Or just go to the track more often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1noel Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dig back about a year ago... I posted the same thing... 11.24 @ 127MPH pulling the front wheels and having a horrid reaction... Depends on what you want to be good at... Drag racing takes lots of skill. I just prefer something that holds my attention a little longer... You're easily in a 12 second car... Mike You bet I'd rather be on a road track, but the nearest one is 8 hours away. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janaka Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 if you pegged the limiter 3 times that car will drop 4-5tenths like that *snaps fingers* Practice makes perminant. some sticky tires and you'll be even faster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six_Shooter Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 if you pegged the limiter 3 times that car will drop 4-5tenths like that *snaps fingers*Practice makes perminant. some sticky tires and you'll be even faster! Yep, it sounds like a shift light would be a good investment. I know for myself, it not only helped me shift at the right time, to help lower my ETs (with a little adjusting of the shift point), but also much more consistant. This was with my high 15 second Skyhawk, not blisteringly, hell not even singingly fast, but the consistancy was there. I then had my 13 second turbo V6 truck, that I didn't have a shift light in (had planned on it), and was even close to consistant. Earlier this year I had a shift light in the Datsun, but wasn't installed in a way that was easy to see (placement was poor), and wasn't very consistant there, now I have a large Auto Meter shift light mounted on top of the dash, right in my face, so I won't even need to glance down to see the shift light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjc5500 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Once you find the perfect launch rpm, get a 2 stage limiter. then you can launch more consistently. just a thought tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gr8White Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 PRACTICE, its a LEARNED SKILL Yup, nobody goes out there the first time and ET's what the car is capable of. you are going to have to experiment with shift points, launch rpm and tire pressure. Don't get down on yourself, it takes hundreds of passes to get proficient at drag racing. If you are really serious about getting better get yourself a drag racing notebook and make notations of your passes, what went right, what went wrong, etc...Doing your homework can be a "power adder" in itself. The best investment I ever made for learning how to drag race my cars was a Tach with a memory/playback. This will tell you how to drive the car! Use this info. with your notebook and practice, practice, practice....Studying the playback with your timeslips will tell you the proper shift RPM. I cut a full tenth off of my 1/8 mile times using this method and gained consistency. Hint for your reaction times- Don't wait on the green light- Let the first two lights drop and wait for the third light to go, as soon as you see it light up, hammer it. Don't anticipate and go on the third bulb, you'll redlight- wait for it to light up and as soon as it does, go immediately. You should be able to cut a sub .600 (on a .500 tree) through practice. Get that 60' down....It's killing you. Sticky tires, find the right launch RPM.. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 "Hint for your reaction times- Don't wait on the green light- Let the first two lights drop and wait for the third light to go, as soon as you see it light up, hammer it. Don't anticipate and go on the third bulb, you'll redlight- wait for it to light up and as soon as it does, go immediately. You should be able to cut a sub .600 (on a .500 tree) through practice." good point! everyones reaction speeds and dexterity is a bit differant, I used to wait for the last yellow on the tree to start too light then ID start letting out the clutch and depressing the throttle, from a constant 1900rpm the engine was held at,that worked very consistantly with practice ---(FOR ME!) but you need decent traction tires,and the abillity to destroy the tires if you get into depressing the engines/throttle a bit too aggressively, if thats going to launch the car consistantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest QuarterHorse Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Not sure if it was mentioned, but your R/T has zero to do with E/T. R/T is the amount of time it takes from the light going green until you break the timing beam. E/T is the time it takes once you break the timing beam at the start till you break it at the end of the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gr8White Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Not sure if it was mentioned, but your R/T has zero to do with E/T. R/T is the amount of time it takes from the light going green until you break the timing beam. E/T is the time it takes once you break the timing beam at the start till you break it at the end of the track. LOL, I never said that reaction time had anything to do with ET and didn't even suggest that, I was simply trying to help with winning the race. A bit off topic, yes- but ET aside most people prefer to win the race too. I can see how you would think I was equating ET with reaction time in reading this again. To me, nothing is worse than getting beat on a holeshot. You gotta love a holeshot when you are the shooter and not the shootee...That's driving. It may not help your ET, but it will go a long way in helping your competence (and confidence) with drag racing, and that is the point here. Getting back to the point, I think the 60' is the obvious problem with the ET. Granted, banging off the rev limiter isn't helping but the 60' times for the mph posted should be in the 1.6-1.7 range..getting the 60' even into the 1.9's with some DR's would be an easy 12.50..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest QuarterHorse Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 LOL, I never said that reaction time had anything to do with ET and didn't even suggest that, I was simply trying to help with winning the race. A bit off topic, yes- but ET aside most people prefer to win the race too. I can see how you would think I was equating ET with reaction time in reading this again. To me, nothing is worse than getting beat on a holeshot. You gotta love a holeshot when you are the shooter and not the shootee...That's driving. It may not help your ET, but it will go a long way in helping your competence (and confidence) with drag racing, and that is the point here. Getting back to the point, I think the 60' is the obvious problem with the ET. Granted, banging off the rev limiter isn't helping but the 60' times for the mph posted should be in the 1.6-1.7 range..getting the 60' even into the 1.9's with some DR's would be an easy 12.50..... Gotcha. I too have won and lost at the light. With a better short time the mph will come down a bit. Usually when your spinning like that you get a "sling shot effect" per say and the mph is higher than it normally would be. I'm sure your aware of this though. Congrats on the times, look forward to seeing you improve and those ET's drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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