lowdown Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I got a ARE oil sump a while back for a old Z, Totaled it and now thinking of putting it in my turbo swap car. I'm missing a pully, perhaps a tentionor, and maybee some other stuff. I have never used one before so if someone can point me in the right direction, i'd appriciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 You'll need the following to complete your dry sump system: 1. Engine block mounting bracket for the pump. 2. Gilmer belt pully for crankshaft (might also need drive pulleys for water pump, alternator, and any other accessory). 3. Scavenge line filters to keep crap out of the pump. 4. Remote oil tank. 5. Additional -10/-12 oil lines and fittings to plumb the entire system. 6. Pressure side filter. 7. Block adapters for oil filter boss and pressurized oil inlet at the old oil pump location. 8. Assorted fasteners, clampes, etc. to route the oil lines. All of this is still available from ARE. Figure about $650 more for the parts you'll need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at-jefft Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Anybody know the website of ARE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoov100 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 looks like it mounts on the A/C compressor bracket on a zx and besides the pulleys looks like everything else is just your typical dry sump setup, alot of the parts you should be able to buy from summit, jegs, speedway, ebay and the local hose shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairjj Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Website for ARE: http://www.drysump.com Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 been on that page, its not very user friendly, wish i could find a catalog or something. i guess if it was easy, everyone would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 If anyone has pictures, i love pictures, it would be awsome. trying to make cents of it all... I don't have any dollars left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phred Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 How to modify your Nissan & Datsun by Frank Honsowetz. ISBN 1-55561-237-7 Phred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 been on that page, its not very user friendly, wish i could find a catalog or something. A Public Service Announcement There's this thing called a telephone. It allows person to person synchronous voice communication and its very effective. Been around a while. There's also this technology called e-mail. It allows asynchronous text communication between two people. Check this page: http://www.drysump.com/index1.htm At the top, the group of numbers is what you punch in on the telephone to talk with someone. Just below that, the group of letters with the ampersand in the middle is an e-mail address. Type that into your e-mail program and then type your message and hit the SEND button. BTW: Their catalog is on their web site right here: http://www.drysump.com/areacatg.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlerMonkey Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Turbo oil drain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I'm with Howler Monkey---sometimes people use a dedicated pressure/scavenge pump for the Turbo which has it's own coolers and uses a different oil than in the rest of the crankcase... Failing that, then you would need a scavenget hookup on the pan to accomodate the turbo return/drain line. It's a bit overkill for a street car. Though, for my Bonneville Project it would be the cat's teats! Selling? muahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 John, thanks for your comments, regular and sarcastic. i understand that phone is useful, but my schedule isn't great for dealing with most companies, also I tend to try and not keep people on the phone to much if its stuff I don't understand fully. Info on forums, pics, etc helps 100 times more generally. I spend a bunch of time explaining stuff to customers at my shop, and end up refereing them to online sources so i can get work done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I've installed/modified two ARE dry sump systems on L6 powered 240Zs. For any reasonable sized oil tank (1.5 gallons at a bare minimum) it pretty much has to go in the interior of the car. That makes the oil system plumbing fairly complete (and long) with the required filters and coolers. It is the best way to setup the engine oiling system but its complex and costs a bunch, even if you do it yourself. Mark at ARE is a great guy and will answer any question you might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Failing that, then you would need a scavenget hookup on the pan to accomodate the turbo return/drain line. I've T'd the oil drain into one of the scavenge lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 You mean like an A/N MS positionable "T" off the scavenge line at the pan.... (which was what I had in mind when I posted it, not necessarily returning it all the way to the pan. Not a big fan of unsupported fittings in runs of hose when it can be avoided.) Tomato/Tomatoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I've installed/modified two ARE dry sump systems on L6 powered 240Zs. For any reasonable sized oil tank (1.5 gallons at a bare minimum) it pretty much has to go in the interior of the car. That makes the oil system plumbing fairly complete (and long) with the required filters and coolers. It is the best way to setup the engine oiling system but its complex and costs a bunch, even if you do it yourself. Mark at ARE is a great guy and will answer any question you might have. Sorry to bump an old (ish) thread, but could you explain why the tank would have to go inside the car? Isn't there a bunch of room on the passenger side of the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Take two 1 gallon plastic milk bottles and cut one in half and tape it to the bottom of the other. Now try to fit that somewhere in the engine compartment of a 240Z while still allowing room for three -12 AN lines, a breather, etc. It can be done but it makes for a very crowded engine bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Moving it towards the center of the car (at least equidistant between the wheels) helps handling compared to loading it up high where the battery formerly was... Or worse, out where the EVAP cannister would be on a 260 or 280Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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