JDTIPPIT Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I am trying to decide which way to go on my 280zx. I am swapping a v8 in at the moment and it is about time to make up my mind. Any one have any reccomendations? Does anyone actually have manual steering on there car? How is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxtman Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 If it's a daily driver, I would go with the power rack; otherwise, especially if it's a track car, I would go with a manual rack. Also, a manual rack means one less accessory (belt) to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.svoboda Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 just pull the power steering belt and see how you like manual steering. Got big arms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edz280zx Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 A manual rack and a power rack with the belt off are WAY different. I don't have any problem with the manual rack in my car, however, mine doesn't have a v8 in it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxtman Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 just pull the power steering belt and see how you like manual steering. Got big arms? Not so. A power rack without a belt is harder to turn than a manual rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Not so. A power rack without a belt is harder to turn than a manual rack. "big arms" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.svoboda Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 it may not be the same but sure will give you the feel of using without power assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islanddozer Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 With the v-8 I would go power, More weight over wheels make it harder to turn. There is electric power steering that is quite good and saves the power that a belt might rob. here is a link of a guy who used a suburu rack with a v-8 http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=112003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzinc Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 With the v-8 I would go power, More weight over wheels make it harder to turn. There is electric power steering that is quite good and saves the power that a belt might rob.I never knew that they had a electric power steering please, i would like to here more about this type of power steering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islanddozer Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Here is some reading about electric steering enjoy http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Technical/eps.htm the second genaration Toyota MR2's have an electric power steer pump that can easily be converted to original Z lines. If you wish to go cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Juday Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 In an S130 I wouldn't consider the electric PS. From what I have gathered there is considerable modification involved in installing it. The S130 came from the factory with a very satisfactory PS system. The fabrication required to mate it to a V8 is peanuts compared to installing an electric system. Now for us S30 guys, who never got PS from Nissan, it's a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calico Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 is there a considerable weight diff in manual vs power steering in the s130? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger280zx Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Yes, it is about a 40lb weight difference. And for those that don't think 40lbs is a lot; remember, the majority of that weight is hanging off the front of the engine! Edited February 23, 2011 by roger280zx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yes, it is about a 40lb weight difference. And for those that don't think 40lbs is a lot; remember, the majority of that weight is hanging off the front of the engine! How are you figuring this? I would have guessed 10 or 12 lbs for the pump, the lines, and the power rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticky280zx Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 for shear feel and control...go manual, and ofcourse its lighter, im not gonna argue a number, but weight is weight. Then again the 79s are the lightest zx's and the only ones with manual steering (that i know of) But theres also less pieces (less to replace/again MORE weight) from the power rack vs manual. Lets just say i swapped my old 80 stroker zx from power to manual, and i have an extra manual rack laying around for myself or someone else that appreciates it. Also im 5 10 and 140-150#s....it doesnt take that much to turn a damn wheel you pansies...and remember a v8 with aluminum heads is lighter than the stock L6 and with most kits, sits back to the firewall for a better distribution/takes weight off the front of the car and shifts it back some. Not to mention big wheels/tires make it harder to turn a wheel vs more motor/weight up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaparral2f Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 After the local Nissan dealer told me the price for the high pressure hose for my stock PS, I decided to go the electric route. I'm using the system from a Cobalt. The power assist motor is on the steering column under the dash and doesn't interfere with the legroom. It is connected to a Jaguar power rack, and the first trial (sitting in the garage) it seems to work well. Of course my car is a Z31, so it probably doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticky280zx Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 yea z31 is a little different but to me it wouldnt make a difference, used hoses/junkyard parts are veryyyy cheap and wouldnt change systems just because of an overpriced (at the dealer) hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaparral2f Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Actually, there's more to it than just the cost at the dealer. First there aren't many Z31s or for that matter, JYs around these parts. Second, the electric system doesn't weigh any more than the stock one, and the weight is further back. Weight probably doesn't matter to some but every pound and its location is important in my build. That's why there is a Kevlar/carbon fiber one piece front clip is in the works. And best of all, there is no chance that I'll wake up some morning to find a puddle of electricity under the car. Edited February 28, 2011 by Chaparral2f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger280zx Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 How are you figuring this? I would have guessed 10 or 12 lbs for the pump, the lines, and the power rack. It is just from memory, I have shipped 3 complete power setups; rack, crossmember, pump, lines, and pulley, in addition to one non power setup. I may be confusing the power rack figures with that of the recuiculating ball system (that thing is heavy), but it is definitly more than 10lbs. Hell, theres probably 3 lbs of fluid in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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