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Hey Mark,

 

Interesting spring setup you've got there. looks like it'll hold up well. You could use a trunk bolster or something to hold it eventually rather than a piece of wood. a short one like from a jeep or something going from the frame to say your 3rd knuckle on your hing should be plenty to hold it up and keep out of your way while not weighing too much.

 

Still liking your rims, they're looking pretty cool! I'll evenually probably go for Watanabis - since I can't afford awesome ones like yours. I like the wider lip anyway.

 

So I've been measuring a lot with my HR, using the stock intake I've still got plenty of room above my engine between the hood and plenum. My plenum fits just under the stock hood latch, where my oilpan is about 1/4 inch below the stock steering crossmember. I'm thinking this is a better fit than most of the DE engines I've seen. The harmonic balancer is about an inch above the steering crossmember too, so no issues there. I did have to modify the steering crossmember to fit around the lower crank housing. My exhaust is really tight using modified HR headers. Your custom firewall should take care of all that though.

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Hey Mark,

 

Interesting spring setup you've got there. looks like it'll hold up well. You could use a trunk bolster or something to hold it eventually rather than a piece of wood. a short one like from a jeep or something going from the frame to say your 3rd knuckle on your hing should be plenty to hold it up and keep out of your way while not weighing too much.

 

Still liking your rims, they're looking pretty cool! I'll evenually probably go for Watanabis - since I can't afford awesome ones like yours. I like the wider lip anyway.

 

So I've been measuring a lot with my HR, using the stock intake I've still got plenty of room above my engine between the hood and plenum. My plenum fits just under the stock hood latch, where my oilpan is about 1/4 inch below the stock steering crossmember. I'm thinking this is a better fit than most of the DE engines I've seen. The harmonic balancer is about an inch above the steering crossmember too, so no issues there. I did have to modify the steering crossmember to fit around the lower crank housing. My exhaust is really tight using modified HR headers. Your custom firewall should take care of all that though.

The hood weighs almost nothing so I plan to use only a tiny spring latch on the hinge to lock it in the up position.

 

My headers will run upwards into the turbos and then the downpipes are designed to run alongside the transmission. It's all been designed to fit nicely.

 

mark

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Picts look pretty cool Mark, What'd you come up with for the transition with the wheel flares?

 

Back to my bigger interrests in your project, the HR engine... Courtesy Nissan has the GTR intake manifold for ~$600 bucks, It's a little shorter than the HR stock plemum. I've been thinking about that for my build, just to raise the engine about an inch. Not to mention the cool factor. Do you have any picts of your engine apart? There's not too many picts out there about the HR internals. How are your engine mods coming? Have you decided how your Turbos are going to mount yet? I imagine you're not going to have the AC or PS pumps on there so I was also wondering what you're thinking for the belt routing? I've been looking at mine and I haven't figured out a way to route the belt without building an additional pully into the mix. I might go with the AC pump instead so I can have AC, since NM in freakin hot in the summer.

 

Keep up the good work, and any more picts you can post would be awesome...

 

Phar

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Picts look pretty cool Mark, What'd you come up with for the transition with the wheel flares?

 

Back to my bigger interrests in your project, the HR engine... Courtesy Nissan has the GTR intake manifold for ~$600 bucks, It's a little shorter than the HR stock plemum. I've been thinking about that for my build, just to raise the engine about an inch. Not to mention the cool factor. Do you have any picts of your engine apart? There's not too many picts out there about the HR internals. How are your engine mods coming? Have you decided how your Turbos are going to mount yet? I imagine you're not going to have the AC or PS pumps on there so I was also wondering what you're thinking for the belt routing? I've been looking at mine and I haven't figured out a way to route the belt without building an additional pully into the mix. I might go with the AC pump instead so I can have AC, since NM in freakin hot in the summer.

 

Keep up the good work, and any more picts you can post would be awesome...

 

Phar

 

I took pics of the engine apart but they were out of focus. I'll try again. being lazy. Still waiting on key parts- head gasket and bearings. should be done this summer with engine.

I plan to make my own plenum. It's really part of making it unique. otherwise there are enough options I could slap on. Not sure about the belt issue. not there yet. AC sounds good but this is really a race car. we'll see when we get closer to that.

 

HR choice has been a ***** for parts. at times I wish I'd just gone with GTR motor, but back when I was sourcing the motor, I couldn't find them. now they seem to be around.

 

right now still trying to build the metal framework that hangs the body panels onto the frame. it's been super slow. hope to have visually interesting progress soon.

 

definitely not stopping, but recent process hasn't been pic-worthy.

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Yeah I know running down parts for the HR motor is a pain. Some things just don't make sense like why do they have offset bolts for the Alt and PS brackets? Why not just use a bolt that's got the same diameter along the whole shaft? I've had to source a lot of parts, fortunately there's a ot of these motors around so it's not too too bad, just a pain. I really like that GTR plenum, I'm really tempted to order one of those. The are shorter than the stock plenum which makes be wonder if with that, it would be short enough to drop into a Z32. I know the DE is just a little too tall.

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Their making an adapter for the VR38 intake manifold to fit the VQ35HR?

 

Yep, Should be out soon. They are making in for a TT 370z 1000HP car they are building. Results should be out this week. Then they will be producing for the public.

 

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http://www.the370z.com/forced-induction/20809-gtm-performance-engineering-vq45vhr-our-journey-1000-hp-beyond-97.html

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Ahh I guess I was mislead. It's good to know though since I would certainly be interrested in the GTR intake if it fit. I wonder how much those guys will be charging for their adapter?

 

Anyway, back to Mark's thread, How's it going Mark, Got any more picts?

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Almost nothing has happened with my car over the last three months. I'll tell you why: Here in Austin there are only a few shops that are both capable and interested in helping with a project like this. Some are too expensive, but most just don't have the skills. It's not LA. Regardless, I have found a few folks who have been able to help over the years. One shop, Al's Bodyworks, is basically just Al himself. He's really good at what he does and he has been extremely helpful over the years. I credit the great bodywork on my silver Z to him, which is also how we made the molds for this new project. In any case, I recently moved the car from Al's back over to Andris' shop (Laivin's Race Cars) since some of the work was out of the range of Al's experience. He's great at what he does, but this is a complex undertaking.

 

So here we are, having lost a few months with a change of plans. Andris has the car and is now working on the interior rear glass wall (Since the back area will be open, I'm sealing the cabin with a window just behind the seats. The cardboard in the pics is where the plexiglass will go. The engine is finished. The steel body (what remains of it) just got back from sandblasting. As you can see, we are keeping only the minimum. It will be welded to the frame and then all of it powder coated.

 

We're back on it now, not quite full time, but certainly things will move faster. Stay tuned.

 

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Wow, It's not much more that a skeleton now is it?

 

Your engine is finished eh? Well that's good, What'd you do for the electronics, or have you not decided yet? I gotta tell you your roller frame/cage is pretty awesome.

 

For electronics I have the stock ecu so I'm hoping to use uprev's solution. But that's a ways off before I have to worry about that.

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Right, okay. Well if you decide not to go with uprev, and want to go with the BCU/Nats etc let me know, I've read that manual probably 15 times as it pertains to the harnesses. if you have the ECU, you can have a BCU and Key programmed to work with any ECU. It's just dealer time with the Consult3. Using the stock harness you could used the 350Z dash cluster and integrated cruise control. (of course this means wheel sensors on the Diff and altered front sensors.) Just a thought. I'm sure you've already got the gauges all planned out. Got any Engine pron picts?

 

Phar

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Right, okay. Well if you decide not to go with uprev, and want to go with the BCU/Nats etc let me know, I've read that manual probably 15 times as it pertains to the harnesses. if you have the ECU, you can have a BCU and Key programmed to work with any ECU. It's just dealer time with the Consult3. Using the stock harness you could used the 350Z dash cluster and integrated cruise control. (of course this means wheel sensors on the Diff and altered front sensors.) Just a thought. I'm sure you've already got the gauges all planned out. Got any Engine pron picts?

 

Phar

 

no engine porn pics yet, still looks stock on the outside. but i definitely have plans for that engine. I'm going to shave down the cam-covers, getting rid of all the little cable mounts so it's smooth, then paint them red. The front cover will likely be polished, and the twin intakes will be custom. The two turbos will sit up high next to the cam covers on each side with the piping coming/going straight forward in the engine page. Should be a sight. There's room in there and I have the will and the time.

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Nice! I can't wait to see how that turns out. I do hope you're share picts of the build up process. On my HR, I'm using the stock 08 manifold, and with the engine in place my hood closes fine. The oil pan hangs below the steering crossmember by about 1/2 and inch. but mines a 280Z so I'm not sure if that's what makes the difference. I don't have much space between the hood and the top of the plenum,so hopefuly heat won't be an issue. The plemum is plastic as you know so I don't expect it to be an issue.

 

I imagine you're using custom headers to move the turbos so far forward. Have you looked at the Twin Turbo kits that are out there? You might be able to mod one and save some $ if you can make it work.

 

Eric

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