casper9182 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What am I looking at here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 You got to be livid at this point.... Is that all particles at the bottom of that drain tub? Do tell.... BTW, I'll come pick it up this weekend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 Oh yea gray oil. That ones junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREW RBZ Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Oh boy...im feeling for you brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 New head, new crank.... new....well.... bunch of stuff..... my guess is your issue is in the block since you have had the same failure twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 Oh i need a good cry. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat1 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Did u have the block inspected ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Oh course. Had a good shop go though everything and assemble.. Oh by the way something just seized locked the belt and bent all the valves.(assuming valves are bent cause the belt slipped). $ deep in engines. Time to go ls9 or just lease a 997 and beat the crap out of it for a few months and get it out of my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat1 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Well they missed something or your doing something wrong. This keeps happening each time. I've been turning wrenches for a living for over twenty years and I have seen a lot of messed up crap but never 3 times in a row and to the same person. Something is being done incorrectly or is being over looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 I found the problem! its a Nissan. 55k as is where is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six_Shooter Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Are you sure it's metal? On just about every engine build I have done, the assembly lube can appear like metallic bits, and can give a false sense of something wrong. The fact that it looks to be floating suggests this may just be assembly lube. If you can't really pick out a piece, as in put some of the oil on your finger and there is no silver left on your hand after the oil drips off your hand, I would not worry. I'd put in more oil and run it, I bet you will find less and less of this silver with each oil change. If you can actually pick out pieces, then well, yeah it's not good then... I know you mentioned a few pages back that you had trouble after swapping to Royal Purple oil, but I will say this, Royal Purple is all I run in my toys, and have had no issues with it. I like it more than the Mobil 1 Synthetic I was using previously. I have used Royal Purple for at least 5 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Well I'm assuming the valves are going to be bent. i got everything back to TDC with the belt off, the idler snapped. WTF man i bought a cam belt tension gauge and had everything set to 196nm. WTF The man's trying to keep me down man i swear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pat1 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) This is very common with the rb motors. You can buy a collared bolt that prevents this from happening. I had it on my rb. 196nm is 144 ft lbs,that's too tight. It's 43-56 nm if I'm reading the manual correctly. It's a bit blurry on the inter web. 196nn is tighter than a banjo string. I've always done it by feel. I bet that belt was singing. Edited April 13, 2014 by pat1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 i did it by the book, i thought it was 196 off the top of my head let me read it. It felt right too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREW RBZ Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 As Pat1 has pointed out the tension on that belt was WAYYY too much if your numbers are correct as stated. That is a colossal bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 As expected, bent valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted300 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) Ugh, sorry to hear this brother...it's gotta sting. Edited April 13, 2014 by boosted300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 196N (20kg, 44lb) on the belt tension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) 196N (20kg, 44lb) on the belt tension 196N is 44lbs. 196Nm is 144lbs. Most torque wrenches I see are in Nm. Edited April 14, 2014 by Akira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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