^the thing is that Kiyo (the guy i spoke too about the wheels) have certain colors and sizes already here in the states... they have a watanabe US warehouse down in LA, so getting them shipped is not much an issue (60 bucks to ship out from LA!!)... Luckily they had the size and color wheel i wanted so there was no other extra fee i paid for. I got mine without lugs for about 2200. Volks or other name brands like SSR's can cost that much. But vintage, era specific and truely a JDM classic wheel for that price, no regrets for me.