JMortensen Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I just spent 20 minutes looking for some nuts and bolts. Poured my big coffee can full of old nuts and bolts out, got pissed off and dirty, and didn't find as many as I needed. Yesterday I went to the hardware store and they wanted $2.25 for a SINGLE grade 8 7/16-20 bolt that was 1.25" long. Give me a break! Fasteners have been a real PITA lately. So I'm thinking when I put the suspension and fenders back on the car it sure would be nice to have some NEW, CLEAN, FRESH bolts to do it with. The question then is what grade is sufficient for these tasks? I don't think I need a grade 10.9 to put a fender on, but for the suspension it might be a good idea. Or maybe 10.9 is too hard and brittle. Just asking for some general advice. Does anyone know what Nissan used? Also, if you know a good supplier where I could buy a box of 50 of these, 50 of those, 50 of the other, but not fill a whole stockroom full of nuts and bolts that would also be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo280zEd Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 there are several places in houston that supply bolts and nuts in bulk. Boltdepot.com i think it one, just do a google search. As far as grade, depending on the suspension piece I would say grade 8 as that is what is commonly used for brakes in the industry. Also.. I think nissan used a grade 5 or 7 for the fenders, they don't really require i hole lot of strength. I'd say grade 5 should be more than sufficient. -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john kosmatka Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Grade 8 seems to be pretty common for most of the suspension stuff from the factory. I too would have liked to get all fresh nuts and bolts for everything, but its just too hard to get back and forth from the local hardware store and find what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fear_me Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 check ebay, there is a guy on there selling complete hardware kits for the datsun. i can not remember the price, but it was complete frontend kits, engine bay, interior, and rear end kits. ~Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yeh grade 8 for suspension and most other structural applications. Nissan use grade 4 sometimes for non structural purposes but they break easily so something better is sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo280zEd Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yeh grade 8 for suspension and most other structural applications. Nissan use grade 4 sometimes for non structural purposes but they break easily so something better is sensible. They shouldn't be torqued that much, that's why they break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 You can still buy most of the OEM nuts and bolts for the 240Z from Nissan. Its especially easy if you want to buy more then individual fasteners. Some dealer parts departments are pricks and won't give you the time of day. Others are glad to help if you give them the part numbers (you do have the Z microfiche CD right?) If you don't want to go that route, shop at an industrial hardware store (no True Vale, Ace, etc.). Grade 10.9 is fine for all suspension and driveline components. Although I haven't purchased from these guys, I've heard good things about them: http://www.ultimategarage.com/hmhdwre.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yeah, I've got the CD, but I need more than just the stock bolts. I'm into all these fabrication projects and it's starting to really piss me off when I don't have the right parts and I'm getting butt rammed by the hardware store. We have a local fastener dealer here, and even they seemed extremely expensive. I'll check out that ultimate garage site though. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhadman Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Jon, Try McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com McMaster is an EXCELLENT resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatMan Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Hey, Jon, try this place: http://www.pointe-products.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Workinprogress Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Jon, I got a decent selection in a kit from Fastenall. I usually just buy a box of 50 nuts or bolts when I have to go there for just a couple. Between the kit and the few boxes around my workbenches, I have all the fasteners I can use. Just a suggestion. Fastenall or Tacoma Screw in our part of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deMideon Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 When I was putting my 280 together I did exactly that, almost all of the bolts I used are new. My local True-Value is the best place I have found for bolts. The metric high strength ones are kinda expensive, but you only need them in a few places so it's not bad. The only things I used Nissan bolts in was the driveline, especially the driveshaft and half shafts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 I was going to Lowe's, but they just JACKED UP the prices on bolts like 400%. They used to have big bins full of bolts and they were cheap. I went the other day and now every bolt is individually bagged and the prices skyrocketed. That bolt that was $2.25 last time probably would have been $.60. Screw Lowe's, they're not getting any more of my business. I went to Tacoma Screw and I think they Tacoma Screwed me too. I used to feel like I wasn't getting so ripped off on this stuff. Maybe I'll try a couple more hardware stores before I give up and mail order stuff. McMaster Carr has worked for me before, might have to go that route again, or try to find a Fastenal locally and see what their prices are like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaime240z Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I've had good experiences with boltdepot.com It seems like metric fasteners are getting harder to find locally for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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