AE2ZX Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 moving along with my Project Z thinking about making a 3.1 f-54 block. for my next monster turbo build . i pulled my old block apart and started preping it .. going to strip it of everything and send it out to a good shop? {still looking into FINDING ONE } This will be a long term project . i will be using this thread as my starting point for researching .so if you are working on your 3.1 build or have any ideas then please feel free to post them up . Has anyone tryed this kit that msa makes is it a good kit for 3.1 builds? seem a little pricey but understandabley so http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/CTGY/PEM05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_V Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 One thing to think about with 3/3.1/3.2L builds is how thick your cylinder walls are. If your going to be dragging, thats not a big issue (the engine runs at WOT for 20seconds maximum) but if your road racing and doing prolonged WOT runs then that'll be a much bigger consideration. Also when your running lots of HP/boost becareful of thin walls. Other then that just make sure its quality work. Hmmm 3.1L holset.... Personally I want to do a 3L build so I can keep my walls pretty thick and keep the piston weights low. But then again thats the long term as I only have the engine and no car.... Phil, hows the boost response with 2.8L? ~Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AE2ZX Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 boost response with the 2.8 is awsome iam very very stoked with how the swap turned out iam over 1800 miles and running like a champ:) so the 3.0 build would be better for a turbo'd road racer build because of the wall thickness hmhmhmh thaTS good info ..i didnt think about that ..i need to DO more research ..i pretty much havent had a chance to read alot of posts on bigger bore L MOTORS ... is there a better place to buy all the parts i will need other than msa? this link here seems like the top of the line kits but would cost more http://www.kameariengineworks.co.jp/page5.htm http://www.kameariengineworks.co.jp/CONTENTS.htm / looks like i could order one thing from every page and still not have all i want and i will have spent more money then is in fort knox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayAreaZT Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 All you need for that overpriced MSA kit is to source a LD28 crank, 240Z rods, and 240SX pistons. There's alot of info on this site for 3.1 builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTM-EXC Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Good luck, i just picked up a spare turbo motor from the Junkyard so I will probably be following whatever you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AE2ZX Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 this FQ HELPed me understand things a little better .i think the 3.0 build will be the way to go still trying to figure it all out http://zhome.com/rnt/L28conversion/3031FAQ.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeiss150 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 You can usually find a stroker crank on ebay for about 300 bucks. or search the junk, yards for the disel maxima. Ebay would probably be the faster way to get one. they seem to show up about once or twice a month. Matt- P.S. I have a set of 8mm L24 rods that I would be willing to trade for a P90 head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNMASTER Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hi there I am also busy building a stroker already got the crank , pistons send the head and cam to engine builder to flow and grind cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(goldfish) Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 For a uberturbo L I wouldn't use the MSA kit. Get forged custom pistons and longer rods. Also check what Timz and Jeffp have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_H Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 You may have seen it already - but check out my webpage in my signature. Granted I wrote it nearly 10 years ago, but fundamentally, most of the info is good and still accurate. Someday, (after I get my RB26 up and running and build another stroker), I'll update the webpage. For example, I say the F54 is the best block - and for many reasons it is, but the N47 block is just as good - and for both you need to check your wall thickness. It walks through many of the basics if you haven't read them already. The cylinder head choices are well covered in posts here at hybridz and have been discussed ad-naseum, (great info in those threads). -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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